HALIFAX, FRIDAY, MARCH 21, 2025

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Sixty-fifth General Assembly

First Session

9:00 A.M.

SPEAKER

Hon. Danielle Barkhouse

DEPUTY SPEAKERS

John White, Marco MacLeod, Tom Taggart

THE SPEAKER » : Order. We will now start the daily routine.

PRESENTING AND READING PETITIONS

PRESENTING REPORTS OF COMMITTEES

TABLING REPORTS, REGULATIONS AND OTHER PAPERS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Seniors and Long-term Care.

HON. BARBARA ADAMS « » : I am tabling, on behalf of the Minister of Justice, the Nova Scotia Human Rights Commission 2023-2024 Annual Report.

THE SPEAKER « » : The report is tabled.

The honourable Minister of Seniors and Long-term Care.

HON. BARBARA ADAMS « » : I am tabling, on behalf of the Minister of Justice, the Minister's Annual Report on Accessibility 2023-2024.

THE SPEAKER « » : The report is tabled.

STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS

GOVERNMENT NOTICES OF MOTION

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Emergency Management.

HON. KIM MASLAND: I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

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KIM MASLAND: In the Speaker's Gallery today, we have three special guests from the Atlantic Pilotage Authority who were recently involved in a search and rescue mission of two Royal Canadian Navy sailors after their boat capsized in Bedford Basin. I would ask that they please rise as I introduce them so they may receive the warm welcome of the House: Captain John Burke, deck hand Scott O'Reilly, and joining them today, Captain Peter McKenna. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House and thank you for your service.

The honourable Minister of Emergency Management.

RESOLUTION NO. 139

HON. KIM MASLAND: I hereby give notice that on the following day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas on January 24^th, tragedy struck Nova Scotia when a boat of the Royal Canadian Navy carrying two of its sailors capsized in Halifax's Bedford Basin, tragically resulting in the death of one of the sailors; and

Whereas upon hearing the distress call over the radio, pilot boat crew from the Atlantic Pilotage Authority responded immediately, arriving on scene within minutes, and began a search and rescue mission; and

Whereas the Atlantic Pilotage Authority crew swiftly and efficiently located the overboard sailors, recovered them from the water, and immediately administered first aid treatment before they were transferred to the hospital for further treatment;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House recognize the heroic efforts and actions of the Atlantic Pilotage Authority, of Captain John Burke and deckhand Scott O'Reilly, and commend them for their quick response on their call of duty.

Speaker, I request waiver of notice and passage without debate.

THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed? It is agreed.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

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The motion is carried. (Standing ovation)

It's nice to have some real live heroes here in the audience today.

The honourable Minister of the Public Service Commission.

RESOLUTION NO. 140

HON. TWILA GROSSE « » : And African Nova Scotian Affairs.

I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas today, the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, reminds us that racial discrimination continues to harm communities, limit opportunities, and deny people their fundamental rights and dignity across Canada; and

Whereas the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination is observed annually on March 21^st to commemorate the tragic loss of 69 lives in 1960 in Sharpeville, South Africa, when police opened fire during a peaceful demonstration against apartheid "pass laws"; and

Whereas Nova Scotia has taken action to address systemic racism, hate, and inequity by passing the groundbreaking Dismantling Racism and Hate Act, releasing the provincial Equity and Anti-Racism Strategy, and establishing the Equity Impact Assessment Guide and tool;

Therefore be it resolved that this House reaffirm its commitment to combatting racial discrimination by strengthening anti-racism policies, advancing economic equity, and urging all Nova Scotians to confront discrimination in all forms as we work toward removing barriers that impede African Nova Scotians and all racialized communities.

Speaker, I request waiver of notice and passage without debate.

THE SPEAKER « » : My apologies, Minister. I should have acknowledged you as the Minister of African Nova Scotian Affairs, but I did not know your resolution.

There has been a request for waiver.

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Is it agreed? It is agreed.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried. (Applause)

The honourable Minister of Agriculture.

RESOLUTION NO. 141

HON. GREG MORROW: I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the Halifax Grain Elevator is the last ocean elevator in Atlantic Canada, with the deepest grain export berths on the east coast; and

Whereas the Halifax Grain Elevator provides inbound and outbound vessel access and is served directly by CN Rail; and

Whereas the Halifax Grain Elevator has been the export gateway for Nova Scotian commodities, supporting Atlantic Canadian soybean farmers and the Nova Scotia rural economy;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of the House join me in supporting the continued operation of the Halifax Grain Elevator at the Port of Halifax and recognize the value of this infrastructure on Halifax's waterfront and request the federal government's continued investment in this important piece of infrastructure.

Speaker, I request waiver of notice and passage without debate.

THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed? It is agreed.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

Bill No. 106 - An Act to Ensure Public Accountability with Respect to Unproclaimed Legislation. (Lina Hamid)

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Bill No. 107 - An Act Respecting Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder. (Hon. Derek Mombourquette)

Bill No. 108 - An Act to Amend Chapter 4 of the Acts of 1994-95, the Gaming Control Act. (Elizabeth Smith-McCrossin)

THE SPEAKER « » : Ordered that these bills be read a second time on a future day.

NOTICES OF MOTION

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.

RESOLUTION NO. 142

KENDRA COOMBES « » : Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day, I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas Nova Scotia is built on the belief that everyone deserves the chance to thrive, including people with Down syndrome; and

Whereas recently, we have seen troubling steps backward; government decisions threaten to undo the progress our community has worked tirelessly to achieve; lack of funding, exclusion from essential programs, and barriers to full participation in society have never been okay, and in 2025, we refuse to go backward; and

Whereas Nova Scotians with Down syndrome deserve the same access to basic rights and opportunities as everyone else - it's time for action, not excuses;

Therefore be it resolved that this House refer the following matters to the following standing committees for the purpose of reporting back to the House on their findings and recommendations: Human Resources, a new funding model for the province to increase classroom support for students with Down syndrome; Health, an initiative to expand specialized training and research for health care professionals working with individuals with Down syndrome; Community Services, a strategy to protect people with Down syndrome from losing disability benefits when they seek work, establish a housing benefit to allow individuals with Down syndrome to access living arrangements that support their independence.

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Speaker, I request waiver of notice and passage without debate.

THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed? There are several Noes.

The motion is tabled.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.

RESOLUTION NO. 143

HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day, I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas Nova Scotians with Down syndrome are a vibrant part of our communities, workplaces, and schools; and

Whereas March 21^st is recognized as World Down Syndrome Day in Ontario and in Prince Edward Island; and

Whereas World Down Syndrome Day is an opportunity to raise awareness, promote inclusion, and celebrate individuals with Down syndrome;

Therefore be it resolved that immediately upon the passing of this resolution, the Order of the Day Private Members' Public Bills be called and the questions for second and third reading of Bill No. 57, an Act to Establish Down Syndrome Day, be put forthwith without amendment or debate and that the bill be committed.

Speaker, I request waiver of notice and passage without debate.

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THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed? I hear several Noes.

The notice is tabled.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Waverley-Fall River-Beaver Bank.

INT'L DAY FOR ELIM. OF RACIAL DISCRIM.: 60^TH ANNIV. - RECOG.

HON. BRIAN WONG « » : As we recognize the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, I rise today to celebrate the significance of this day, not only here in Nova Scotia but around the globe. This year marks the 60^th anniversary of this internationally observed day and serves as a powerful reminder of our commitment to building a society where everyone feels welcomed, valued, and respected.

Today we reaffirm our commitment to ending racial discrimination in all its forms, championing equality, and fostering understanding among diverse communities. Our government remains dedicated to prioritizing initiatives that support often-underrepresented groups. We recently provided $400,000 in grants to 11 community organizations across this province to support projects addressing systemic issues and inequalities as well as anti-racism education efforts.

Let's use this day not only to reflect on the progress we have made but also to commit ourselves to the work that lies ahead. I ask all members of this House to join me in observing this important day.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Chebucto.

KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : Speaker, I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : In your gallery today is Miia Suokonautio. She is the executive director of the YWCA. I ask her to rise to receive the warm welcome of the House. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Halifax Chebucto.

SUOKONAUTIO, MIIA: CORONATION MEDAL RECIP. - CONGRATS.

KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : I practised that last name many, many times.

I rise today to recognize Miia, executive director of the YWCA Halifax and recent recipient of the King Charles III Coronation Medal. Through her commitment to the YWCA and Halifax community, Miia leads efforts to build gender equality and support for young women, girls, two-spirit, and gender-diverse people and their families.

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A writer of letters, a collector of stories, a listener, a reader, a traveller - Miia has intertwined her life with so many. As a decision maker, policy informer, and not-for-profit leader, Miia's work transforms lives, addressing inequality, violence, poverty, and homelessness. Miia is a resident of Halifax Chebucto who is making a lasting impact in the Halifax Regional Municipality both at an individual and systemic level.

Please join me in applauding Miia for her long-standing advocacy in the not-for-profit sector and for working tirelessly to better the lives of those in difficult circumstances. We thank you. (Standing ovation)

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sydney-Membertou.

INT'L DAY FOR ELIM. OF RACIAL DISCRIM.: AWARENESS - RECOG.

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : I, too, want to rise in my place to recognize today the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination. I appreciate the comments from the minister. I stand in my place as I was the proud representative of Whitney Pier for a number of years in this Legislature, as well as of the community of Membertou.

There are 50 distinct African Nova Scotian communities across the province, and there are people in those communities and across this province who do the work every day to continue the fight to eliminate hate. I do want to recognize my friend and colleague the former Premier, who opened the Office of Equity and Anti-Racism while he was Premier. That office has been the foundation for a lot of good work that is done.

I want to rise in my place to recognize the day and recognize all of the people who do the work and all of the advocates who continue to ensure that everyone feels equal in this province. The work will never end. The journey will always continue to ensure that we eliminate hate across Nova Scotia.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cole Harbour-Dartmouth.

WORLD DOWN SYNDROME DAY: RAISING AWARENESS - RECOG.

BRAD MCGOWAN « » : I rise today to celebrate World Down Syndrome Day. On this day, we join people around the world in raising awareness, promoting inclusion, and honouring the contributions of individuals with Down syndrome.

The date, March 21^st, or 3/21, was chosen to symbolize the triplication of the 21^st chromosome, which causes Down syndrome. This is a day to reflect on the importance of acceptance, understanding, and support for individuals with Down syndrome and their families as well as to celebrate the diversity they bring to our lives. Here in Nova Scotia, we are fortunate to have organizations like the Halifax NS Down Syndrome Society, whose work and dedication to providing resources and support for families and individuals in the Down syndrome community is truly inspiring.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.

INT'L DAY FOR ELIM. OF RACIAL DISCRIM.: AWARENESS - RECOG.

LINA HAMID « » : On this International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, I stand with Nova Scotians and people worldwide against racism. We see daily the impact of racism, from privileged aggressions to systemic barriers affecting access to basic needs such as housing, employment, and education.

Nova Scotia, with its diverse and rich-in-heritage communities, must lead. We must strive for equity in policing, health care, and education. We must engage directly with equity-deserving groups. We must listen to and empower them. Education is key. We must teach our children the true colonial and racial history of, unfortunately, every corner of the world. We must teach our children empathy, understanding, and acceptance. We must move beyond performative allyship and engage in meaningful action in dismantling racism and colonialism in all their forms.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Bedford Basin.

NOWRUZ: PERSIAN CELEBRATION - RECOG.

TIM OUTHIT « » : I rise to celebrate Nowruz, the Persian New Year. This is a joyous occasion marking the arrival of Spring and the renewal of nature. Celebrated by millions around the world, including here in Nova Scotia, it's a time of unity, reflection, and hope.

Aligning with the Spring equinox, this celebration symbolizes balance and harmony, as day and night are of equal length. It reminds us to honour traditions, embrace new beginnings, and strengthen the bonds of family and community. It's not only a celebration of the rich cultural heritage of the Persian community but also a reminder of the values that we share of hope and the importance of coming together in unity.

As we welcome Spring, let's recognize the contributions of the Persian community to Nova Scotia and celebrate the diversity that enriches our province. I invite members of the Legislature to join in celebrating Nowruz and embrace its message of hope, harmony, and renewal. May this year bring peace, prosperity, and happiness to all.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.

WORLD DOWN SYNDROME DAY: NEED FOR ACTION - RECOG.

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KENDRA COOMBES « » : Today is World Down Syndrome Day. My brother Adam and my cousin Barbara have Down syndrome. Like 45,000 other Canadians, Adam and Barbara have taught our family so much about love, compassion, acceptance, and patience.

On World Down Syndrome Day, it is not enough to wear one's socks and post pictures on social media or make speeches. Without action, it is only performative. This year's theme, Improve Our Support Systems, calls on government to take meaningful action on education supports, health care, income assistance, disability supports, and housing supports. Families also need support, as the family members with Down syndrome often are supporting them. Support is a key human right that helps make other rights possible. The support each person needs varies. If government really wants to help people with Down syndrome, they'd take meaningful action.

THE SPEAKER « » : Before I move on, I beg leave - I know this will be my second time - to do a short little introduction. Thank you very much. I would like to recognize Sarah Johnson. She's working on a B.A. at Dalhousie University in political science. She's working with my office for the political networking initiative. If you could please stand, we'd like to give you a warm welcome. Hi, Sarah. We hope you enjoy your time and learn a lot from all of us here. (Applause)

The honourable member for Sydney-Membertou.

C.B. ZOOMTIMERS: DOWN SYNDROME ADVOCACY - RECOG.

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : I want to rise in my place to recognize World Down Syndrome Day. Every year, I like to recognize the Cape Breton ZoomTimers and the Cape Breton Down Syndrome Society.

The ZoomTimers have met with premiers; they've met with cabinet ministers; they've interviewed many people in here; they interview musicians all over. I can tell you they bring so much love and support and happiness into the community. I'm very honoured to be their buddy. We get to go to hockey games together a lot. They love the Eagles. We do our best to hang out the best we can. They make my life better.

I rise in my place to recognize all my buddies with the Cape Breton ZoomTimers and the Cape Breton Down Syndrome Society. I try to recognize one every time I do a member statement, so one of my buddies is Ryan Delaney. He's a wonderful young man. He's the best dresser I've ever seen. He loves going to the hockey games and hanging out with his buddy Max Murphy. I rise in my place to recognize all of them, but I recognize my good buddy Ryan Delaney.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Preston.

HON. TWILA GROSSE « » : Before I read my statement, I beg leave to make an introduction.

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THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

TWILA GROSSE « » : Joining us in the gallery today, I'm honoured to introduce Joyce Carter, the president and chief executive officer of the Halifax International Airport Authority. Joyce, I would ask you to please rise to receive a very warm welcome from the members of this House. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the People's House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Preston.

CARTER, JOYCE: HIAA CONTRIBS. - RECOG.

HON. TWILA GROSSE « » : I rise today to acknowledge the inspiring contributions of Joyce Carter, president and chief executive officer of Halifax Stanfield International Airport Authority. Throughout her career, Joyce has been integral in Halifax Stanfield's growth and development, which fuels Nova Scotia's economy, contributing $4.2 billion annually, serving millions of passengers and handling significant cargo volumes.

In addition to leading an exceptional team at HIAA, Joyce is committed to supporting and advising the aviation industry through various board memberships, locally and internationally. As an accomplished leader she has received numerous awards, including being named one of Atlantic Canada's Top 50 CEOs by Atlantic Business Magazine from 2017 to 2020, one of Atlantic Canada's 25 Most Powerful Women in Business, and one of Canada's Most Powerful Women: Top 100 in the Most Powerful CEO category in 2023.

Joyce continues to ensure that Halifax Stanfield International Airport leads in aviation innovation and consistently ranks among the world's top airports. We thank Joyce for her role in ensuring that Halifax Stanfield International Airport continues driving connectivity, economic growth, and benefiting all Nova Scotians.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Needham.

INT'L DAY FOR ELIM. OF RACIAL DISCRIM.: AWARENESS - RECOG.

SUZY HANSEN « » : I rise today to recognize the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination. I rise to recognize this day, and it has been talked about by my colleague, so I won't reiterate all those wonderful words. I also rise to recognize that we as legislators hold a role in making sure that we uphold that, and we eradicate racial discrimination.

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Yet the reflection in our legislation speaks otherwise. We have spoken in this House multiple times about the lack of communication with our Indigenous brothers and sisters. We've spoken multiple times about the lack of just plain respect to communicate with African Nova Scotians has been one of the priorities that are being dismissed. African Nova Scotians are not being consulted on the legislation that's being brought forward here in this House, that will impact our land and water for both our Indigenous and African Nova Scotian folks.

Affirming this day is very important, but our actions speak louder than words. Let us show all Nova Scotians that we are ready to act on the things that matter most, and one of those things is eradicating racial discrimination.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.

SCHWARTZ, DAVID: DOG PARK CREATION - THANKS

HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : Speaker, today I want to recognize Brunello resident David Schwartz. He and his little dog, Twiggy, have become ambassadors of the dog community in and around the Brunello area. He is responsible for encouraging a fence around the park. It has become a de facto dog park that is owned by HRM, and if it wasn't for David, we wouldn't be seeing so many people out. All the kids love Twiggy, and it's great to see such a community come around and get together.

Dave continues to maintain the park. He put the garbage can out there and he actually maintains it. He goes above and beyond to make sure that we have that park there. I would also credit David for encouraging HRM to make it more pedestrian-friendly around the neighbourhood, and he pushed very hard to see crosswalks around the Timberlea Village Parkway.

Thank you, David, on behalf of the local community and on behalf of the Nova Scotia Legislature.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Guysborough-Tracadie.

SAERC SAINTS: HOSTING PROV. CH'SHIP - RECOG.

HON. GREG MORROW: Speaker, I rise to recognize the SAERC Saints girls' hockey team. A little more than a year ago, the Saints and East Antigonish Mustangs joined forces to form a team for the first time. They did very well as a first-year team, advancing to provincials and winning silver in a one-goal provincial championship game.

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This season includes another milestone. The Saints are hosting the 2025 School Sport Nova Scotia Division 2 Girls Hockey Championship at the Port Hawkesbury Civic Centre. Six teams from across the province will face off: Dalbrae Academy, West Kings, Tatamagouche, Hants East, and Middleton. Action starts today and wraps up with the championship game on Sunday.

I'd like to wish the best of luck to all of the SAERC Saints hockey players as they host their first-ever provincial championship, including my own constituents: Jaida Breen; Sidnee Wood; and Georgia Wood, and, of course, my own daughter Lucy Morrow. Also, a special thank you to the team's dedicated coach, Lance Hawley, and his staff for their work this weekend and all year, as well as all the parent volunteers who stepped up to make it happen. Go Saints. (Interruptions)

THE SPEAKER « » : Take it outside, fellas.

The honourable member for Halifax Citadel-Sable Island.

INT'L DAY FOR ELIM. OF RACIAL DISCRIM.: AWARENESS - RECOG.

LISA LACHANCE « » : Speaker, I too rise today to mark the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination. This day was created as a response to the killing of 69 protesters at a peaceful anti-apartheid demonstration in Sharpeville, South Africa, in 1960. The 2025 theme is the 60^th anniversary of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination.

On December 21, 1965, the United Nations General Assembly adopted this convention. As the first of the U.N.'s core international human rights treaties, the convention set the stage for future human rights advancements. Its commitment to eliminating racial discrimination and promoting equality underpins the ongoing fight against racist ideas and practices and aims to foster global understanding and unity.

The 60^th anniversary of the convention calls for reflection on progress made against racial discrimination while highlighting ongoing challenges. It is time to reaffirm our commitment to equality and continue efforts to eliminate racism, ensuring justice and equal treatment for all.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Clayton Park West.

BRANSCOMBE, NATALIE: SPEC. OLYM. AWD. - CONGRATS.

ADEGOKE FADARE « » : Speaker, I rise today to celebrate Natalie Branscombe, an exceptional athlete, leader, and ambassador for the Special Olympics. Excelling in swimming, curling, and basketball, Natalie's talents are matched only by her dedication to building a more inclusive society.

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As a founding member of the Canadian Athlete Leadership Council, Natalie plays a key role in shaping Special Olympics programming nationwide. Whether advocating at events, refereeing, or cheering on teammates, Natalie's passion and spirit have made her a beloved figure in our community. Her commitment to inclusion and her ability to inspire others are unparalleled. Natalie's presence uplifts everyone around her.

I am thrilled to congratulate Natalie on being awarded the Canadian Special Olympics Athlete Community Excellence Award, a well-deserved recognition of her tireless efforts. She is a true champion, not just in sport, but in life. Let's celebrate her remarkable achievements and the legacy she continues to build.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth North.

INT'L DAY FOR ELIM. OF RACIAL DISCRIM.: AWARENESS - RECOG.

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : I just want to add a few words around the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination. The day, and the history of the day, is rooted in international atrocities. I want to bring the importance of the day down to a very micro level. In my community of Dartmouth North, I have been seeing, and other constituents have alerted me, to the fact that there has been a rash of very disturbing, racist, anti-immigrant stickers that people have put up in public places - in parks, on light poles, and those kinds of things.

I just want to say that this is unacceptable. I want everyone, if they see this kind of thing, to tear them down, throw them in the garbage, and report the incidents to the Hate Crime Unit of the HRP. Racism in any form is unacceptable, and we need to be leaders in fighting it.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Kings South.

JULIE VANEXAN » : Speaker, I beg leave to make a couple of introductions.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

JULIE VANEXAN « » : Speaker, today in your Gallery I would like to welcome my husband Craig, and my sons Darwin and Dyson. I am so happy they could be here today because I wouldn't be standing in this spot at this moment without them. I am truly blessed.

I ask that they rise and receive a warm welcome from all members. (Standing ovation)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. You get the bird's-eye view of what your mother does when she's in here.

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The honourable member for Kings South.

JULIE VANEXAN « » : I would also like to welcome Paula Huntley, who is seated in your Gallery. Paula is an active community member with a passion for service. She is a local business owner with a focus on recruitment, coaching and mentorship. I am so glad that she could make the trip down for her first visit to the House. I ask that she rise and receive a warm welcome from all members as well. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Pictou Centre.

TOWN OF TRENTON: 114^TH ANNIV. - CONGRATS.

DANNY MACGILLIVRAY: On March 11^th, the Town of Trenton celebrated its 114^th anniversary of incorporation. Trenton has a vast industrial history, including being the location of the first pouring of steel in Canada - a milestone, a long history of steelmaking in Nova Scotia.

Over the years, Trenton has been widely recognized for its manufacturing industries, including the production of glass, rail cars, and windmills. Today, the same location has Trenton Woodworks building off-site construction and manufacturing solutions ideal for generating new housing. The Battery Energy Storage Project proposed for Trenton offers an opportunity in building sustainable infrastructure in making progress in Nova Scotia's transition to clean energy, bringing Trenton's rich industrial history into a sustainable, energy-efficient future.

Trenton has a strong sense of history, community, and active culture participation. When told they were too small to have their own ice rink, several residents joined together to make it happen. In 1975, the group turned the rink over to the town, free and clear of any debt. The arena continues to be known as one of the best in Pictou County. Visitors also regularly flock to Trenton Park, which hosts 565 acres of beautiful, designated parklands, walking trails, playgrounds, and more. Recent additions of a skateboard park, pickleball, and multi-sports courts, and the construction of the new Pictou County Sports Heritage Hall of Fame solidified Trenton as a significant recreational hub in Pictou County.

Congratulations, Trenton, on 114 years.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.

BROTHER, ADAM: DOWN SYNDROME AWARENESS - RECOG.

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KENDRA COOMBES « » : On World Down Syndrome Day, I rise to recognize my angel boy, my brother Adam. Adam is truly a miracle. We nearly lost him when he was just a baby. He had meningitis, a hole in his heart, and he had Down syndrome. My little angel boy fought hard for this world. He has taught us everything there is to know about compassion, love, understanding, and acceptance.

He is teaching my girls that very same thing. He is truly the best uncle anyone could ask for. He loves them as if they were his own. That's great because I love him as if he were mine. When I was pregnant with my daughter, I didn't think I could love someone as much as I love my brother. I learned that love grows; it doesn't divide. My love for him and my love for my girls has grown, and their love for each other has truly cemented a wonderful relationship.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cole Harbour.

BEST KIND MUD SHOP: SUCCESS - CONGRATS.

HON. LEAH MARTIN « » : Speaker, today I would like to recognize Cole Harbour community member Dr. Lisa Batten, the owner of the Best Kind Mud Shop.

Originally from Newfoundland and Labrador, Dr. Batten previously worked in post-traumatic stress disorder research. Using her knowledge, she decided to build a community space in Cole Harbour for art and connection. Best Kind Mud Shop has been open since December 15^th and is a welcome new addition to our community. The business employs five local teachers part-time, and offers pottery lessons, workshops, and drop-in activities for residents of all ages. It is currently the only pottery retail store in Atlantic Canada. We're very fortunate to have it right here in our community of Cole Harbour.

I ask that the members of this Legislature please join me in congratulating Dr. Batten on her new business and in wishing her the very best in the future.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.

SON - BIRTHDAY WISHES

LINA HAMID « » : Today I rise to celebrate - not my son's Gregorian calendar birthday, but his lunar calendar birthday. He was born on Ramadan 21^st, which is today. I rise today to take a moment to talk about all the things that motherhood has taught me. It has taught me the same thing - that love grows. I have a little sister whom I consider my first baby. When I was pregnant with my son, everybody asked me, Are you going to love him the same way you love your little sister? Of course I do. Love grows. He's taught me patience. He is a kid who will literally stop at flowers to smell them. It teaches me to take a moment, that there is really no rush in life, to be curious, and to ask the weird questions that come to mind because somebody else is probably wondering the same thing.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Antigonish.

HALEY, DAN: COM. SERV. - THANKS

HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : I rise today on World Down Syndrome Day to highlight the contributions of the incredible Dan Haley from Antigonish. Dan was awarded the Queen Elizabeth II's Platinum Jubilee Medal in 2022.

He is an exceptional member of our community. He cares about the people he meets, and he truly sees and honours where they come from. He is deeply interested in family connections, is an incredible local genealogist, and knows a lot about everyone's family tree. He lives in the Heatherton group home. He's a loyal friend. Admittedly he does work at the Heatherton Activity Centre and Antigonish 5¢ to $1, but I think we could all agree that Dan's greatest strength is in the role of supervisor and customer service. He is also a very good Special Olympian. You cannot leave time spent with Dan Haley without feeling better.

Thank you to Dan. Our community is better because you're there, and I appreciate your kindness and friendship.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Needham.

INT'L DAY FOR ELIM. OF RACIAL DISCRIM.: AWARENESS - RECOG.

SUZY HANSEN « » : Speaker, I rise today to recognize the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination. The 2025 theme of this day is the 60th anniversary of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, marking a groundbreaking step in the global effort to eradicate racism.

This set the stage for future human rights advancements. Its commitment to eliminating racism and discrimination and promoting equality underpins the ongoing fight against racist ideas and practices, aiming to foster global understanding and unity free from racial segregation.

As legislators, all bills that go through this House should always be examined through multiple lenses that reflect our population in Nova Scotia. We all have a role to play. All members of this House hold this responsibility and have a duty to Nova Scotians to eradicate all forms of racial discrimination, starting with our legislation.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Queens.

MANNING, VICTORIA: VERNI ART GALLERY - CONGRATS.

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HON. KIM MASLAND: I rise today to congratulate Nova Scotian artist Victoria Manning on the opening of The Verni art gallery and gift store in Caledonia. Opened in Summer 2024 and relocated to Caledonia Corner this past Fall, The Verni features nature-inspired artwork by Nova Scotian artists and artisans in various media. The gallery and gift store offer a wide variety of treasures ranging from rug hooking and ceramics to organic teas and soaps.

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With more than 25 years of experience in the arts and interior design industry, Victoria is actively engaging with the community and has opened the space up as a beautiful coffee shop serving locally made treats, and recently hosted an open mic night. I thank Victoria for choosing Queens to be the home for The Verni, and I wish her much success on this venture.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Citadel-Sable Island.

NOWRUZ: PERSIAN CELEBRATION - RECOG.

LISA LACHANCE « » : I rise to mark Nowruz, a vibrant celebration that occurs on the Spring equinox. This ancient 300-year-old observation is celebrated across a range of traditions and cultures and symbolizes renewal and rebirth. Leading up to the celebration, communities engage in a thorough cleaning of their homes to purify their living spaces. The celebrations begin with the festival of fire, where participants jump over bonfires, a custom that again symbolizes cleansing negativity and ushering in health and warmth for the year ahead.

The Haft-Sin table is at the centre of family celebrations, and families gather at the precise moment of the equinox. The table is layered with seven symbolic food items starting with the Persian letter S. This includes sabzeh (lentils), samanu (sweet pudding), senjed (dried oleaster fruit), seer (garlic), seeb (apple), sumac, and serekh (vinegar). Families also add other special items.

I ask all members to wish all those celebrating a Happy Nowruz.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Bedford South.

LAVIGNE, REBECCA: COACH OF YR. AWD. RECIP. - CONGRATS.

DAMIAN STOILOV « » : I rise today to celebrate Rebecca Lavigne, who has been named the 2024 National Coach of the Year at the Special Olympics Canada Awards Night. For the past 10 years, Rebecca has played a vital role within the Special Olympics Sackville-Bedford Bravehearts community. As head coach for the swimming and basketball teams, her leadership has been transformative, shaping these programs into spaces of growth, inclusion, and excellence.

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Rebecca's approachable demeanour, paired with her dedication to inclusion, has drawn athletes of all abilities to her teams. Her passion has also inspired others to become coaches in helping her make a difference. Beyond her coaching achievements, Rebecca has been a driving force in the community's fundraising efforts, ensuring these programs continue to thrive.

Whether on the court, at the pool, or behind the scenes, Rebecca brings heart, vision, and dedication to everything she does. Under her guidance, athletes don't simply develop their skills, they grow in confidence as they are empowered with her support.

I invite all members of this House to help me in recognizing Rebecca Lavigne for being named Canada's Special Olympics Coach of the Year. We thank her for her extraordinary work that she has done for Special Olympics here in Nova Scotia.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth North.

NOMINEES: MERRITT AWARDS - RECOG.

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : The 2025 Theatre Nova Scotia Merritt Awards, celebrating the best and the brightest in the Nova Scotia theatre scene, is just around the corner. The gala event will be held at Alderney Landing and celebrate the accomplishments in every aspect of theatre, from playwrighting to fight direction.

I would like to congratulate everyone who made theatre in Nova Scotia last year and give special shout-outs to the nominees from Dartmouth North: Burgandy Code for outstanding direction for Deepwater, outstanding performance nominees Mary Fay Coady for Martha in The Mountain and the Valley, Ryan Rogerson for Joseph in The Mountain and the Valley and TIME in Chased by the Bear - all of those were produced by Two Planks and a Passion Theatre - and the very handsome and talented Sébastien Labelle, for playing Harold in Leaving Home.

I know many in this room know the value of theatre in our communities and our province. I ask that my colleagues join me in congratulating Theatre Nova Scotia and wishing everyone a wonderful celebration.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

INT'L DAY FOR ELIM. OF RACIAL DISCRIM.: AWARENESS - RECOG.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Today is the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, which is observed annually on the day the police in Sharpeville, South Africa, opened fire and killed 69 people at a peaceful demonstration against apartheid pass laws in 1960.

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The United Nations General Assembly reiterates that all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights and have the potential to contribute constructively to the development and well-being of their societies. The current geopolitical situation calls us all to be even more on guard, to ensure all human beings are free from racial discrimination.

I want to thank my colleagues here in the House who continue to advocate for positive change, especially the Minister of African Nova Scotia Affairs, as well as the member from Halifax Needham and all members who work toward this. I also would like to recognize local organizations like CANSA and the Multicultural Association of Cumberland. We all have a part to play.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Truro-Bible Hill-Millbrook-Salmon River.

CARROLL, DWAYNE: SKATING SUCCESS - CONGRATS.

HON. DAVE RITCEY « » : I rise today to congratulate figure skater Dwayne Carroll on his incredible achievement at the Nova Scotia Winter Games in Greenwood.

As Truro's first Special Olympic figure skater, Dwayne's dedication and passion for the sport have truly shone through. Winning gold is a testament to his hard work and the unwavering support of his family and community and his incredible coach, Cathy Boudreau. Dwayne's inspiring journey is a source of pride for Truro and a reminder that determination knows no limits. Dwayne, you have made history and inspired so many with your talent and commitment.

We celebrate your well-deserved success and look forward to seeing where your figure skating journey takes you on the next step. Congratulations once again on your gold medal and this outstanding accomplishment.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Hants West.

MUNROE, KAELYNN: DEATH OF - TRIBUTE

MELISSA SHEEHY-RICHARD « » : I rise today in memory of four-year-old Kaelynn Munroe, who lost a courageous battle with cancer on January 29, 2025. In October, with a big smile on her face, Kaelynn rang the bell at the IWK Health Centre. She was cancer-free. But on December 6^th, her parents, Emily and Will Munroe, received the heartbreaking news that the cancer had returned. Kaelynn's courageous battle touched the hearts of us all, and in the face of unimaginable hardship, the community rallied together in support.

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Throughout her journey, Kaelynn and her parents faced each challenge with unmatched bravery, maintaining an environment of positivity and cherishing every moment together as a family. Speaker, I would ask for a moment of silence to remember dear, sweet Kaelynn, her parents, and the incredible people of Hants West whose kindness and love remind us of the power of community even in the darkest of times.

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THE SPEAKER « » : Please be seated.

The honourable member for Victoria-The Lakes.

STAND & STUFF YOUR FACE: FOOD SERV. - RECOG.

DIANNE TIMMINS: I rise today to offer congratulations to Tim and Rhonda Lockhart, the entrepreneurs behind Stand & Stuff Your Face, a food truck renowned for its exceptional cuisine. With a shared vision of staying in Cape Breton and creating their own future, they embarked on a journey to bring their dreams to life.

In 2015, their vision materialized when they launched their food truck, bringing a mobile restaurant experience to the residents of Cape Breton. Since then, Stand & Stuff Your Face has become a staple across the Island, known for its ever-changing, creative menu. Not only do Tim and Rhonda travel across Cape Breton with their food truck but they also provide catering and barbecuing services, bringing their culinary experience to a variety of events. Their success is a testimony to the power of hard work, resilience, and believing in one's dream. Tim and Rhonda have truly carved out their own path, and their dedication to their craft has made a lasting impact on our community.

I want to congratulate Tim and Rhonda for turning their dreams into a reality and for continuing to inspire others with their entrepreneurial spirit.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Waverley-Fall River-Beaver Bank.

COLE, ISABEL: JUDO MEDAL WIN - CONGRATS.

HON. BRIAN WONG « » : I am proud to announce that Isabel Cole, a talented 13-year-old judo athlete from Waverley, has earned a silver medal at the prestigious Matsumae Cup in Denmark, marking her first international tournament. Competing in the U18 category, Isabel showcased exceptional skill and confidence, ultimately securing her place in the U15 category, where she triumphed over opponents from Sweden, Finland, and Great Britain. This event provided a unique opportunity for our young athletes, including Isabel, to train with peers from more than 10 countries, fostering lasting connections in the judo community. Please join me in congratulating Isabel on her outstanding achievement.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

WORLD WATER DAY: NEED FOR TESTING - RECOG.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Today I rise to recognize World Water Day, which is tomorrow, March 22^nd. Water is one of the social determinants of health and is a key factor to improving health outcomes and inequalities. Access to safe and adequate drinking water has been identified as an essential component for protecting, maintaining, and promoting public health and reducing the total burden of diseases.

While the United Nations' focus for World Water Day this year is the glaciers - which are nature's vaults, holding a precious resource, nearly 70 per cent of all fresh water on earth - my focus is more local: the importance of safe drinking water for Nova Scotians. Rock formations can leach naturally occurring substances like arsenic, cadmium, iron, manganese, and uranium into our water. Our own government website cautions Nova Scotians about testing their well water for both arsenic and uranium.

In honour of World Water Day tomorrow, I commit to promoting well-water testing for all those living in rural Nova Scotia.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Colchester North.

COX, WENDY: COM. SERV. - THANKS

TOM TAGGART « » : I rise today to speak about a valued lifelong resident of Bass River, Wendy Cox. For many years, Wendy has been the go-to person when you need information, advice or have a problem.

Wendy serves on the board of Victoria Hall, a 130-year-old building situated in the heart of Bass River, which, interestingly enough, is the only building built in the 1800s that's still being used for its original purpose in our province. Wendy organizes bottle drives, rents the building out for parties, baby showers, and youth functions, and holds a card party every Wednesday.

Throughout the year, Wendy and the board hold community concerts showcasing local artists from along the shore. These concerts have been a springboard for many young musical careers. I would like to recognize and thank Wendy Cox for her organizational skills and her dedication to our communities.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Colchester -Musquodoboit Valley.

HARRISON, REV. LARRY: COR. MEDAL RECIP. - CONGRATS.

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HON. SCOTT ARMSTRONG: Today I rise to recognize and pay tribute to a friend and colleague of many of us here in the Legislature, former member Reverend Larry Harrison. As we all know, Larry dedicated his life to serving others, be it through his ministry, as a member of this Chamber, or as a volunteer with various community organizations. Larry has always played a big part in making our lives and our community better. In recognition of his years of service, Larry was presented with the King Charles III Coronation Medal by Cumberland-Colchester Member of Parliament Dr. Stephen Ellis at a ceremony on March 2^nd. I ask all members to join me in congratulating Larry on this well-deserved recognition and thank him for his dedication and service to our communities. Thank you, Larry. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Glace Bay-Dominion.

PRICE, CHRIS: COM. SERV. - RECOG.

JOHN WHITE « » : I rise today to recognize a good friend of the community, Chris Price. Chris is an all-around great person, and he's also a dedicated entrepreneur and owner/operator of Price is Right Moving and Trucking. Chris consistently goes above and beyond for our community. Whether it be volunteering with his trucks or organizing community clean-ups of the riverbeds, beaches, and back roads, you'll find Chris offering a helping hand anywhere. Whenever the locals require a truck and some extra muscle, Chris and his team are there and ready to step up.

He consistently goes above and beyond, giving up his time, energy, and labour to make a positive difference in our community. His commitment to service and his generosity set a powerful example for the next generation and for our business community.

Thank you for all you do, Chris. Your unwavering dedication to making a positive different is greatly appreciated.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member Hants West, with 10 seconds.

MELISSA SHEEHY-RICHARD « » : I just want to give a Happy Birthday to my brother Ryan Sheehy.

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. The time allotted for Statements by Members has expired.

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ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORAL QUESTIONS PUT BY MEMBERS TO MINISTERS

THE SPEAKER « » : The time is now 10:00 o'clock. We will finish at 10:50 a.m.

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The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition.

PREM.: PHARMACARE DEAL - APPROVE

CLAUDIA CHENDER: Speaker, yesterday the Premier sent a letter to the new Prime Minister outlining projects in this province that he is looking for federal partnership on. While many of these projects are badly needed for Nova Scotians, there was one that was notably absent: pharmacare. The federal government has already committed money on the table to get free birth control and diabetes medication for thousands of Nova Scotians.

If the deal on the table isn't good enough, why isn't the Premier advocating for a better one?

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Health and Wellness.

HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : The pharmacare deal: We continue to be in discussion with the federal government through the departments - Health Canada and the Department of Health and Wellness. We know that there are opportunities, but we also know that that deal is potentially going to sunset in three years, and we need to ensure that we have the right things covered in that deal. We're working with local experts to understand what our current coverage is, what the potential is within the deal around diabetes care specifically. The discussions are ongoing, but we do have a responsibility to make sure that we have the right deal to ensure that Nova Scotians have access to the care that they need.

CLAUDIA CHENDER: Unfortunately, the Premier was silent on this priority in his letter. Nova Scotians have seen this government change and shift priorities very quickly. The things they campaigned on last Fall were not part of the agenda we have seen here, nor were many of them part of the letter that we saw sent to Prime Minister Carney. People are left wondering where this government stands on things like health care and housing. It is baffling that the Premier wouldn't mention pharmacare for the thousands of Nova Scotians who pay out of pocket for vital medication they could get for free when he was outlining priorities to the new Prime Minister. Why is this government making Nova Scotians wait for free diabetes care and contraception?

MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : I really do believe that Nova Scotians know that we have been consistently and persistently focused on health care since at least two years before the election in 2021 - as a party and now as a government.

We have a record number of investments. We have done a number of things. We're very focused on the ways in which we provide care to Nova Scotians, particularly proud of the Sensor-based Glucose Monitoring Program, which was cited by Diabetes Canada as the best in the country. We work every day to look at how best we can cover things that Nova Scotians need. We look at it in a variety of different ways in a mixed model. We'll continue to do that. We understand that there is a potential opportunity with the federal government. Just because it's not in the letter does not mean it is not top priority, certainly for myself and the Premier.

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CLAUDIA CHENDER: Yet that letter outlined our priorities in working with the federal government. You know what? We don't need the federal government. If this were a priority - many governments provincially have covered the cost of contraception because they understand that removing barriers to accessing birth control is an equity issue. It is well documented that intimate partner violence is a problem in our province and making birth control free is one of many recognized steps governments can take to ensure that women in coercive and controlling relationships have more options. With this ongoing epidemic, the government must act urgently. What is this government waiting for?

MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : Certainly, we understand that there is urgency around a number of different things in relation to the health care file. We are not able to separate one part of that agreement from another. That bilateral agreement encompasses both. It's both birth control as well as diabetic care. We need to ensure that we have the right deal that is sustainable for Nova Scotians. It doesn't mean that in future budgets or in future times, if we are not able to sign the bilateral agreement, that we won't continue to expand programs. We have shown year over year that we expand where we can - the continuous glucose monitoring, the change in the pump program for insulin-dependent people living with diabetes. We'll continue to look at our programs and see how best to serve Nova Scotians.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Leader of the Liberal Party.

DHW: PHARMACARE DEAL - PRIORITIZE

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : Speaker, our caucus as well was concerned yesterday when we saw the letter the Premier sent the Prime Minister outlining the top priorities of this province. Pharmacare wasn't included in it. We know that provinces like Manitoba, P.E.I., and B.C. have signed a federal deal to provide free contraceptives and diabetes medication and this government has yet to come to a deal. Nova Scotians are paying out of pocket for essential medications while the costs keep rising. My question to the minister: Is she concerned that with an election coming on the horizon that Nova Scotia may lose its opportunity?

HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : Certainly, over the last number of years, we have been able to negotiate and sign a number of bilateral agreements with the federal government. Certainly, we're very proud of the National Strategy for Drugs For Rare Disease, which was signed earlier this week and will also give life-saving and life-giving treatment to a number of Nova Scotians.

We do have to make sure that this deal, if it's available to us, is one that is sustainable. The money will sunset after three years. If it's not sustainable, it will leave us in a very different financial position. We continue to speak about the needs of Nova Scotians. We continue to speak about what would be in the best interests of Nova Scotians when we're at those federal tables and we will continue to do that regardless of who is the Prime Minister in Ottawa.

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DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : Speaker, as I said, Manitoba, P.E.I., and B.C. have signed the federal pharmacare deal, giving their residents free contraceptives and diabetes medication. Here in Nova Scotia the government is still in negotiation. Earlier this week, the minister claimed that they can't sign because they need to be fiscally responsible as they negotiate. My concern is that as they continue that negotiation, we very well may see, with an election call in two days - our fear is that in a changing government, Nova Scotia may lose this opportunity. I reiterate and ask the question: Is the minister concerned, if the Conservative government forms, that there will be no pharmacare deal for Nova Scotia?

MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : I have confidence in our government and our ability to deliver health care services for Nova Scotians. We have one of the strongest diabetes programs in the country. We were very intentional, particularly around the Sensor-based Glucose Monitoring Program. We wanted to make sure that, not only from a policy perspective, we were on the mark. We wanted to work with the people who work in this sector, the experts, like the diabetes education staff, nurses and dietitians who work every day with people living with diabetes to make sure we were offering the best program possible. We'll continue to work with the experts in our province and we will continue to talk to our colleagues in Ottawa.

DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : Speaker, I, too, agree there is good work happening in the Department of Health and Wellness when it comes to the work that this government has done and multiple governments have done. The challenge here is that the Premier had an opportunity to send his first letter to the new Prime Minister of this country and pharmacare was not part of his priorities. That is a concern for everybody who is paying attention to this: coming to a deal that will help support so many Nova Scotians with the costs of medication. It is my hope that regardless of the federal election, the opportunity will still be there. I am concerned if the Conservatives do win in Ottawa. My final question to the minister is: Can she provide any kind of timeline or update on how close Nova Scotia may come to a pharmacare deal? (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Such a loving crowd.

MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : As I said before, we are very committed to ensuring that Nova Scotians have access to the care and the medications they need. We have a number of programs already in existence in Nova Scotia and we continue to review those.

There are a number of individuals in our province who have private insurance, of course. We have the Nova Scotia Family Pharmacare Program. We have the Nova Scotia Seniors' Pharmacare Program. We work with the Department of Opportunities and Social Development. If the member opposite is really worried about who is going to be in Ottawa, then maybe he should get his door-knocking shoes on and maybe help and make sure that he gets the person in there that he's hoping for.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition.

OSD: HOUSING CONDITIONS IN HOTELS - EXPLAIN

CLAUDIA CHENDER: Speaker, there are currently 212 families living in provincially funded, very-short-term housing. That's 212 Nova Scotian families living in cramped hotel rooms. These spaces lack kitchens to prepare meals, privacy for parents to decompress and regroup, and spaces for kids to play or do their homework. No family should have to live in a hotel room in this province. Does the minister think these conditions are acceptable for families?

HON. SCOTT ARMSTRONG: Franky, no, I don't think a hotel room is an appropriate place. That's why our department officials are working hard on programs and facilities to move people out of any hotels. It's better than living in a short-term shelter, but we want to make sure we have more supportive housing, more affordable housing like The Rose, which we invested in. It's a great facility. It's got a playground. It's got a gym. It's got kitchens, multiple bathrooms for larger families. We need more supports and more facilities like that. That's why we're working with our service providers across Nova Scotia to make sure we have places for families to go so we'll no longer need to have hotels.

CLAUDIA CHENDER: Sometimes we're thinking and trying and discussing, and sometimes we have to make it happen right away. I'll remind the minister there are 212 families who are not at The Rose who are living in hotel rooms. Every family deserves a home that's suitable and affordable, and these families need non-market, deeply affordable housing immediately. Not only is this not being built with the urgency and speed required, but now the government is about to allow landlords to begin the eviction process just three days after rent is late. Why is this government making it easier for families to be forced out of their homes rather than making sure that families can find housing they can afford?

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Growth and Development.

HON. COLTON LEBLANC » : I'd like again to correct the record regarding eviction notices. When a tenant is faced with an eviction notice, the clock stops when they file an application to the Residential Tenancies Program. I encourage the member to share the entirety of the program changes.We know that the solution to the housing challenges we're seeing in our province is more supply. We believe in the community housing sector. We are making investments working with them, increasing our investment 10 times over the last number of years. We believe in building more public housing. We believe in utilizing the portfolio of existing public housing to its entirety, ensuring that overhousing is being addressed.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Needham.

GAD: PUBLIC HOUSING UNITS - DELIVER

SUZY HANSEN « » : Trump's tariffs are going to increase the cost of building homes in this province, including the cost of homes being built by this government. Duncan Williams of the Construction Association of Nova Scotia has explained that it may no longer be affordable for this government to do five projects, and maybe it's only affordable to do three. My question to the minister who is responsible for housing: Is this government committed to spending what it takes to ensure that all of the promised public housing units are delivered on schedule?

HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : Our commitment to addressing the housing challenges in our province is crystal clear. We have an Action for Housing plan: unprecedented, groundbreaking investments over five years to create the environment to build more than 42,000 new units. We are meeting and exceeding our targets. We believe in increasing supply. We believe in maximizing our existing public housing portfolio, ensuring that the most vulnerable Nova Scotians are the ones who are in there. We know that there's overhousing. We're attacking that. We know that we have to support our most vulnerable Nova Scotians, and we'll continue to do that.

SUZY HANSEN « » : Crystal clear with no timeline - I don't know how that works. Paving the way is not giving people homes right now. As we know, the tariffs are going to impact the ability of other housing providers to deliver homes that Nova Scotians can afford. Speaking on private market supply, Duncan Williams further explained: ". . . you're going to see second-guessing of budgets, you're going to see projects delayed . . ." You will see projects cancelled because they are simply going to be priced at a point where the market just can't bear them. Will this government increase the number of truly affordable rent-geared-to-income units that they promised to deliver now?

COLTON LEBLANC « » : It is a bit rich to hear that rhetoric coming from the member opposite that we are not doing anything and the plan is not crystal clear. If only the member's party would have started to tackle public housing. If only the member's party would have started the community housing investments that we are making. If only they would have come up with a plan to address the housing challenges that have been long on the horizon. We know that Nova Scotians are seeing and feeling uncertainty based on these Trump tariffs but I want to reassure all Nova Scotians they have a government that is listening and ready to support them right across the board.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

OSD: TRIP TO WASHINGTON - EXPLAIN

PAUL WOZNEY « » : Yesterday the Minister of Opportunities and Social Development repeated that he is proud of his taxpayer-funded trip to celebrate The Donald's big day. He said we need to use every connection we have to present the tariffs threatened by President Trump, yet this government won't use all the connections available at home to them in this fight.

Other provinces have brought together labour, industry, and Indigenous communities in the conversations on the tariff threat, something this government refuses to do. It is clear the minister thinks every connection means his old buddies from Parliament, but why doesn't he believe that every connection means including the voices of all Nova Scotians who can help fight this economic threat here at home?

HON. SCOTT ARMSTRONG: There is another thing I am proud of: I am proud of our Premier for going across this country and eliminating interprovincial trade barriers. I am proud that he went to meet with the new Prime Minister and actually put Nova Scotia's priorities on the table.

As this election is happening federally, we have to make sure that we send our message loud and strong, not only to Washington but in Ottawa and across the country. I am proud to be part of a government that is leading this nation. I am proud of the Premier, who is putting forward legislation that is uniting this country. It's a Canada-wide approach. We can unify and take down Donald Trump and his tariffs.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : The question isn't about the trip the Premier is taking - it's about the minister's trip. This trip was at the taxpayers' expense. We continue to ask the minister to table his meeting schedules so Nova Scotians can know it was worth their money. Yesterday, the minister also said we need our voices to be heard by American politicians, and we agree. We need to make sure Americans understand the harm tariffs will have on their jobs and communities, but other provinces have brought trade missions with them to America to help in these efforts. If the goal of the minister's trip to America at taxpayers' expense was to address the threat of tariffs, why didn't he or the Premier invite Nova Scotia business and labour leaders as part of a formal trade mission?

SCOTT ARMSTRONG: There were businesses and leaders from across Canada down in Washington not celebrating the inauguration but standing up for Canada and standing up for Nova Scotia. The Premier has been doing this consistently since Christmas. He's been in Boston, he's been in New York, he's been in the national media down in the United States. They are working constantly for intergovernmental affairs and the Premier's office to try to make sure our message that these tariffs are not only damaging to Canadians and Nova Scotians, but to Americans as well, is heard.

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I'm proud of what our Premier is doing. I'm proud of what our government is doing. We are standing strong in support of Nova Scotia and making sure we challenge these tariffs, not only here but in the States as well.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

ECC: FREE WELL TESTING - PROVIDE

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : My question is for the Minister of Environment and Climate Change. Tomorrow is World Water Day, a global reminder that safe, clean water is essential for our health and our well-being. Here in Nova Scotia, about one-third of our households rely on private wells for drinking water, but testing the water regularly can be expensive or even inaccessible for some families. Contaminants like arsenic, uranium, copper, bacteria, or others can pose serious health risks, especially to children and seniors - yet many people are unaware that their water may be unsafe. Will the minister commit to expanding access to free well-water testing to ensure all Nova Scotians can safely drink the water from their taps?

HON. TIMOTHY HALMAN » : I want to thank the member for this very important question. With 40 per cent of Nova Scotia's population being rural, access to clean drinking water is absolutely essential. My ongoing work with this continues. Tomorrow in Truro, the Minister of Communities, Culture, Tourism and Heritage and I will be attending a water symposium to discuss these very issues. We know how important private well water is to Nova Scotians, and I continue to engage and learn about possible solutions moving forward.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : What a great announcement it would be tomorrow, on World Water Day, if the minister would announce to Nova Scotians who have wells that they could have free access to testing of their water to make sure their water is safe. That would be an awesome thing. I'm sure the minister will consider that. Public health experts, environmental groups, and municipalities have been calling for free or low-cost well-water testing to protect rural families for a long time. Access to clean water shouldn't depend on your postal code or your income. Families who live in rural Nova Scotia deserve the same peace of mind about their drinking water as those connected to municipal systems. Once again, my question to the minister is: Will the minister's department remove financial and logistical barriers to well-water testing here in Nova Scotia?

TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : I think we'd all acknowledge that, in a time of extreme weather events, we know how impactful this issue is to Nova Scotians. Those who lived through the wildfires know first-hand just how devastating the impacts of these events are and how important it is to know that you have access to safe drinking water.

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The Department of Environment provides education campaigns. We provide information to residents. I want this House to be assured this is an issue of such importance that we placed a goal in the Environmental Goals and Climate Change Reduction Act to have a comprehensive analysis done on the barriers to accessing clean well water. The work is ongoing.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.

EECD: CHILD CARE CENTRES - PROTECT

LINA HAMID « » : The Children's Garden, a local daycare, is closing down at the end of April. This will leave parents in my constituency scrambling to find other child care options. We are already in a child care crisis, and parents are spending up to 18 months on wait-lists with no end in sight. My question to the minister is: Why is this government failing to keep child care centres open and leaving families without options?

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE: The member brought this to my attention a couple of days ago. It's something the department has been working on. We've reached out to the providers, and we're looking at creating a plan so nobody goes without child care space. We'll continue to work with them and keep the member informed so she can communicate it back to her community.

LINA HAMID « » : I would like to thank the minister very much for that answer. The child care crisis is hurting families across Nova Scotia. When families can't find child care, they are forced to cut work hours, turn down promotions, or even leave the workforce altogether. This disproportionately affects women and makes it even harder for businesses to find workers. My question to the minister is: How can we justify a system where parents are forced to choose between their careers and caring for their children due to the lack of available child care?

BRENDAN MAGUIRE: I agree wholeheartedly that not having adequate child care is a barrier. That's why we take this seriously. We're working with our federal counterparts. We're working through a child care agreement that looks at the issues we face here uniquely in Nova Scotia and the solutions around it. We're going to continue to do everything we can to ensure everyone who wants to work has the opportunity to work - not just to work but to go to school and live life to the fullest. Child care is part of that, and we are committed to it.

OSD: INCOME ASSISTANCE RATE - RAISE

LINA HAMID « » : The income assistance rates for unhoused folks was recently increased a full $23, going from $380 to $403 per month. Vince Calderhead, a Halifax-based human rights lawyer, demonstrated that the previous $380 monthly rate was, in fact, not enough to cover food, medication, and other basic goods. Does the minister believe that the $23 increase will help unhoused folks cover their basic needs?

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HON. SCOTT ARMSTRONG: Reducing poverty is a complex process that no one measure is going to combat. The member failed to mention that this is indexed, so it will continue to go up with inflation, but we have many other supports for people that are suffering from poverty. We've put in school lunches, the disability benefit, raising the minimum wage - not once but twice in the upcoming year.

We're working hard to make sure we provide supports for people, but the best social program is a job, and we're connecting people to work. Our goal is to get them off Income Assistance, working, and getting the pride of having a job and building up and supporting their own family.

LINA HAMID « » : The number of folks receiving the unhoused Income Assistance rate has dramatically increased since this government took office. From 2021 to 2023, the number of individuals receiving this rate has increased from 1,500 to 2,500. Why are more Nova Scotians receiving this low Income Assistance rate?

SCOTT ARMSTRONG: As I said in my last answer, our goal is to get people off Income Assistance and lower the number of people who are requiring support from the taxpayer and the government. We need to be there at a time when they need us the most, and that's what we've done.

Also, we have doubled the budget for employment supports which connect them to work; it's gone from $9 million a year to $18 million a year. We believe that all these people would love to have a job and love to be able to provide for themselves and their families. We're going to be there to support them with employment supports, job training, and connect them to work, and we know a lot of employers in Nova Scotia need workers. We're going to match them up, train them, and get those numbers down.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.

RTA: CBRM HOUSING BYLAW - ENFORCE

KENDRA COOMBES « » : Cape Breton Regional Municipality Council has passed a bylaw to enhance tenants' rights. The bylaw will make it easier for landlords to be charged or even shut down for not providing safe living conditions, but some are raising concerns that the bylaw will be hard to enforce. Can the Minister of Growth and Development tell us if this government will provide enforcement support to keep renters in Cape Breton safe?

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HON. JILL BALSER » : I want to thank the member for this question. It does give me the opportunity to maybe go back to the compliance and enforcement unit report that, of course, was discussed in this House at the last sitting. We want to make sure that all renters and landlords have a positive relationship there, and we have made some changes to the Residential Tenancies Program to make sure that the outcomes of what an enforcement and compliance unit could do there. That report gave us a look at what it could look like.

When we looked at the report, we made sure that the Residential Tenancies Program had changes, and now I'm really proud to say that through that we have hearing times that are down to three weeks. We want to make sure that, again, it's a positive relationship between the tenant and landlord and that they come to the . . .

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.

KENDRA COOMBES « » : Unfortunately, we've said time and time again that the Residential Tenancies Program is not working for Nova Scotians in our communities. This isn't the only housing problem CBRM is faced with. There are roughly 400 vacant buildings in the CBRM. Community members are worried about their safety, fearing that they will see something like the fire at the Bloomfield School site in their backyard. A vacant land tax could spur development at these sites, turning them from safety threats to safe, secure homes for residents. Will the minister allow municipalities to implement a tax on vacant land?

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Environment and Climate Change.

HON. TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : On behalf of the Minister of Municipal Affairs, we'll take this question under advisement.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.

[10:30 a.m.]

DNR: EMERGENCY EGRESSES - ESTABLISH

HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : Speaker, the wildfire that broke out in Tantallon in 2023, which burned a wide swath of suburban homes and woodland, continues to concern many residents in the communities I serve. Many communities continue to be at extreme risk of wildfires, and residents would like to see governments initiate a proactive plan to ensure everyone can get out safely in case of an emergency.

Lake of the Woods and Cambrian's Cove subdivisions in Hubley are at an extreme risk of wildfires, according to their FireSmart assessment. These two subdivisions are linked together and share one main way in and out. As noted in the Lake of the Woods FireSmart report, there are 215 homes and a thousand residents, and they require a second egress without delay.

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Can the minister please confirm who is responsible for initiating an emergency egress?

HON. TORY RUSHTON » : This gives an opportunity to recognize that the wildfire season has started this year. March 15^th was the opening day for wildfire season.

We did have a devastating season in 2023, as the member has pointed out. Yes, there are many communities working with our FireSmart program and taking initiatives. At some points, there are Crown lands that are available for egress. Typically, what would start that process is the municipality or the developer would start conversations to apply for access to Crown lands. We've been very open with HRM that with any egress that needs to take place, we're a willing partner to be at that table.

I know the member has communicated several times on this issue. I just want to let the member and his constituents know that there's a willing minister here and a willing government to work on those egress plans to go further in the future.

IAIN RANKIN « » : I appreciate the answer. The residents of Blind Bay and some other Prospect communities are facing the same issues. The chairperson for the Shag End Lot Owners Association has a copy of a letter dated July 2014 from the Department of Natural Resources approving easement over Crown lands to a developer who did not act on that offer. I'll table that letter. Will the Department of Natural Resources commit to using that same Crown land for emergency egresses, and will the minister agree to working with the lead group now to establish egress for the communities that require a safe exit during an emergency?

TORY RUSHTON « » : I know the member has communicated to my staff and me earlier on this exact issue. It's my understanding that there may be a loophole where the issue did fall through, where it's a developer and not HRM that's directly responsible for the egress out of that area. I've committed to the member that we will be looking at this and getting together with that association, group, and HRM to ensure there is a pathway forward to develop an egress out of that important area for an emergency.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Chebucto.

OSD: INCOME ASSIST. RECIPS. - SUPPORT

KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : Speaker, just a few more questions on income assistance. Yesterday, the minister mentioned that the best social program is a job. This point, unfortunately, fails to recognize that there are many barriers to employment that Nova Scotians may face. A single adult with a disability who rents or owns receives approximately $17,000 a year. The poverty line is $28,000 a year. Why does this minister believe that Nova Scotians who are unable to work should live $11,000 below the poverty line?

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HON. SCOTT ARMSTRONG: I'd like to thank the member for the question. It gives me an opportunity to talk about the Disability Support Program. We have service providers throughout the province providing services to people who have disabilities that may prevent them from working. We also have the Disability Tax Credit. We raised it by $300. It's a monthly benefit that many people with disabilities across Nova Scotia get.

As I said, we need to make sure we provide the supports that match the people and what their needs are. Sometimes it's employment services and connecting with jobs. Sometimes it's increased benefits. Sometimes it's connecting them with services in their own communities for our service providers. Our Department of Opportunities and Social Development and our officials are working with service providers and our clients across the province to provide them with what they need.

KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : When Nova Scotians on income assistance are able to get jobs, this government knocks them back. As soon as someone makes more than $250 per month, the government starts reducing their benefit amounts. Why is the government punishing income assistance recipients for working?

SCOTT ARMSTRONG: We are supporting people with disabilities and connecting them to work, and when they do work, they don't lose all their benefits right away. That's what used to happen in Nova Scotia. We've actually increased it so that they can keep more of their income, as well as their benefits. We'll continue to work with individual clients.

The Disability Support Program, as we all know, through Remedy, is providing individual funding, or moving towards an individual funding system. We're going to work to make sure we're providing the supports necessary so people with disabilities can work and live in the community, but most importantly, we're going to give them the choice to live and work how they want - not what used to exist in this province. It's going to be individual and it's going to be supportive of them.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Citadel-Sable Island.

DOJ: ADMIN. AMENDMENT ACT - PROCLAIM

LISA LACHANCE « » : This week, the Public Bills Committee heard from the relatives of two young men who were killed outside Halifax bars - in fact, in Halifax Citadel-Sable Island. Theresa Giffin and Lee Sawyer spoke at length about how their loved ones could have been saved by the Security and Investigative Services Act. Unfortunately, this act has never been proclaimed, and it will be repealed if the Justice Administration Amendment (2025) Act is enacted. Will this government honour the memories of Stephen Giffin and Ryan Sawyer and proclaim this Act now?

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Deputy President of the Executive Council.

HON. BARBARA ADAMS « » : Our hearts go out to the Sawyers and Giffins, and all families who have experienced unimaginable tragedies under these circumstances. Our government is committed to doing everything that we can to support the safety of Nova Scotians.

We have taken steps over the last few years to improve the safety in these areas, including in 2023 when we introduced mandatory training and criminal record checks for security staff at all of our cabarets. In 2024, we made responsible alcohol service training mandatory for all 2,500 of the province's licensees. We will continue to do everything we can to keep Nova Scotians safe.

LISA LACHANCE « » : Safe serving training is really important, but the regulatory changes announced by this government only apply to cabarets, as the minister noted. That's only a small percentage of bars in Nova Scotia. They don't go far enough. Theresa Giffin and Lee Sawyer have clearly pointed this out. They explained in great detail in the Public Bills Committee how the government changes fall short, and they have called out this government for a lack of accountability. The easiest thing to make Nova Scotians safer, is to proclaim this Act before the Justice Administration Amendment (2025) Act is enacted. How can this government keep listening to folks, provide them with the solutions and provide them with their stories, and refuse to proclaim this life-saving legislation?

BARBARA ADAMS « » : For clarity, I want to remind everyone that the purpose of updating the Interpretation Act is to improve clarity about in-force legislation. There are more than 200 pieces of outdated and unproclaimed legislation still on the books, like the Provincial Exhibition Act of 1923, the Insurance (Temporary Provisions) Act of 1932, and the Atlantic Stock Exchange Act of 1966. One of the things that I do want to say is that this legislation that the member is referring to to be proclaimed was introduced by an NDP government. Perhaps they would like to take an opportunity in the House to explain why they did not proclaim it.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Armdale.

DHW: RURAL EMERG. SERVICES - PROVIDE

ROD WILSON « » : Former president of Doctors Nova Scotia, Dr. Colin Audain, explained, "Ideally what we'd like to see is attachment to primary care providers, and that's not what Maple provides." Last year, there were 48 doctors working for this government's Maple vendor, a for-profit company app. How many of those doctors left their practices to work for this government's app?

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HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : The option for Virtual Care Nova Scotia that's offered through Nova Scotia Health Authority through the Department of Health and Wellness is a publicly funded system, so those physicians are remunerated as they would be if they were in any other type of practice. Physicians are independent practitioners, and they are able to choose the type of work that they do and where they work. We certainly aren't in a position to limit that. Virtual Care Nova Scotia is a publicly funded system, so the physicians and the nurse practitioners who offer services are paid by the public.

ROD WILSON « » : As we enter the weekend, Nova Scotia Health's website shows emergency room closures in Springhill, Pugwash, Liverpool, Canso, and Sheet Harbour. Everyone else knows other emergency departments are operating day-to-day. My question to the Minister is: What's the plan to provide emergency services to rural Nova Scotia - not next year, but next week, next weekend?

MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : We understand that there are workforce shortages in relation to the emergency departments across the province. There are a few things that are happening. We work in communities within existing resources to see what availability is there for individuals who are trained and competent to work in emergency departments, based on the level of emergency department that is in each community. We are looking at in-market places to recruit people who are emergency department trained - like South Africa, as an example - who have a similar skill set to the requirements here in Nova Scotia. They're very well-trained physicians.

I certainly want people to know that when they call 911, if they are in an emergency situation, they get care immediately. The dispatchers can attach them to care in the medical communications centre.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

ECC: WELL WATER PILOT PROGRAM - START

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : My question is for the Minister of Environment and Climate Change. On January 19^th, I attended a meeting with residents from southern New Brunswick and Cumberland County here in Nova Scotia. We heard directly from individuals and families affected by a debilitating illness - neurodegenerative illness, known in the media as the mystery brain disease. We unfortunately have residents in Cumberland County who are experiencing these symptoms: seizures, balance problems, and memory loss. It affects all genders and people of all ages. One woman presented a letter that said: "After I stopped drinking the water containing arsenic that people should not be giving to an animal, my symptoms have diminished." My question to the minister is: Will he commit to doing a pilot program in Cumberland to see if well water in Cumberland County is safe?

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Health and Wellness.

HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : We know that there is an investigation that has opened in New Brunswick around atypical brain disease questions. The chief medical officer of health in Nova Scotia is keeping an eye on how things are going and is in touch with those individuals. We continue to watch the work and find out what is emerging in New Brunswick. We'll continue to work in partnership with them.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : My question is for the Minister of Environment and Climate Change. On January 20^th, I wrote to the Minister of Health and Wellness, and copied the Minister of Environment and Climate Change. In that letter, I asked the minister to take a look at well water. The collaborative effort between New Brunswick and the Public Health Agency of Canada - they're doing a comprehensive investigation. They're looking to uncover this illness and identify any potential environmental or contributing factors. One of the things they're looking at is exposure to unsafe levels of toxins such as arsenic, which had been found in some cases. Access to safe drinking water is essential. Will the minister commit to starting a pilot program in Cumberland to see if water is safe?

MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : As I said, we are aware of the pilot project that's happening in New Brunswick and that there has been another investigation opened around a cluster of atypical brain disease. The chief medical officer of health in Nova Scotia is aware of that work and in contact. My understanding is that the health officials and officials involved do have a meeting that will be scheduled over the coming months. We'll work to understand what the steps for it are in New Brunswick, and whether or not there's a role for Nova Scotia.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth North.

[10:45 a.m.]

RTA: ENFORCEMENT UNIT ABANDONED - EXPLAIN

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : This government paid $300,000 for instructions on how to set up a residential tenancies enforcement unit. The enforcement unit would have improved tenant rights, and the government got pretty deep into the process of making this happen. The responsible department was even exploring different options for hiring enforcement officers. I can table that information. Can the minister tell us why the residential tenancies enforcement unit was abandoned when it was so close to becoming a reality?

HON. JILL BALSER « » : Our focus is to make sure we have a Residential Tenancies Program that works for tenants and landlords. As I said in the previous question asked around residential enforcement, we want to make sure that is a positive relationship. We encourage everyone who has any questions, of course, to reach out.

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When we did have that report commissioned, as we spoke on the floor of the Legislature in the last session, the outcomes of that wouldn't have made the improvements that some Nova Scotians would have been looking for. We know that in other jurisdictions, they're not meeting the timelines that Nova Scotia is. I stand proudly to say that we have made changes to our Residential Tenancies Program to make sure when there is a dispute between a landlord and a tenant, they have a resolution in a quick timeline.

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : A resolution is not enforcement of the resolution. We're talking about the enforcement of the decisions that are made at the Residential Tenancies Program, which, according to the minister, worked well. The government keeps saying the system is working and no enforcement unit is needed, but this wasn't always the case. In January 2024, department staff defended the creation of an enforcement unit because "There would be a balance in charges laid against a landlord or tenant." What or who changed this government's position on a residential tenancies enforcement unit?

JILL BALSER « » : Again, I want to highlight the fact that we do have a very good Residential Tenancies Program. Having the opportunity to meet with the teams and knowing there are members located at Access Nova Scotia centres across Nova Scotia - they are there to do the good work to support tenants and landlords. It's been said before: If you have a program that has that ability to be able to find a positive resolution in a quick timeline, we make sure that, in the changes that were made, we're meeting and seeing hearings completed within three weeks.

We know that in other jurisdictions it's taking months. In jurisdictions that have tenant compliance enforcement units, it's taking months. We have to make sure that when there are disputes, there is a positive resolution in a timely manner.

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. The honourable member for Halifax Chebucto.

GAD: N.S. LOYAL PROGRAM - EXPAND

KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : Nova Scotia Loyal is a promising program. We all know that highlighting - it is. (Applause) Let me ask my question. We all know that highlighting local products cannot simply be a short-term response to tariffs. In order for our agricultural sector to thrive, we need this to be a long-term sustainable practice. Folks on the ground would like to see the 10 per cent discount for the Wolfville Farmers' Market WFM2Go expanded. Can the minister tell us if the 10 per cent discount will be expanded to the community-supported agriculture programs?

HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : I am proudly Nova Scotia Loyal. I know members in our caucus are. We're embracing this program. It is a movement. We're looking at ways to ramp it up; we're looking at ways to improve it. The feedback we're getting from producers and retailers is invaluable. I'll share for the benefit of the House, from the owner and founder of Green Paw Pet Treats:

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Through the Nova Scotia Loyal initiative, the provincial government has made an incredible commitment to uplifting small businesses, fostering community connection, and encouraging Nova Scotians to support local. Seeing this program expand to major retailers and create real opportunities for businesses like mine is beyond inspiring; it's life changing. To Minister LeBlanc and the entire Nova Scotia Loyal team: Thank you. Thank you for believing in us and for giving small businesses a seat at the table. (Applause)

I'll table that.

THE SPEAKER « » : Order, please. The time allotted for Oral Questions Put by Members to Ministers has expired.

The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE: Would you please call the order of business Government Motions?

GOVERNMENT MOTIONS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE: Speaker, I now move that you get out of the Chair and that the House resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole on Bills.

THE SPEAKER « » : We will have a short recess.

[11:12 a.m. The House resolved into the CWH on Bills with Deputy Speaker John White in the Chair.]

[1:56 p.m. CWH on Bills rose and the House reconvened. The Speaker, Hon. Danielle Barkhouse, resumed the Chair.]

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. The Chair of the Committee of the Whole House on Bills reports:

THE CLERK » : That the Committee of the Whole House on Bills has met and reports progress in its consideration of the bills referred to it.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE: We can do better. Pursuant to Rule 5C, I call the hours for Monday, March 24^th from 4:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m.

THE SPEAKER « » : Pursuant to Rule 5C, there has been a request for the hours for Monday, March 24^th be from 4:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE: Speaker, would you please call the order of business Government Motions.

GOVERNMENT MOTIONS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE Speaker, I move that you do now leave the Chair and that the House resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole House on Bills.

THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is carried.

We will have a short recess while the Committee of the Whole House on Bills sets up.

[2:09 p.m. The House resolved into the CWH on Bills with Deputy Speaker John White in the Chair.]

[4:13 p.m. The CWH on Bills rose and the House reconvened. The Speaker, Hon. Danielle Barkhouse, resumed the Chair.]

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. The Chair of the Committee of the Whole House on Bills reports:

THE CLERK « » : That the Committee of the Whole House on Bills has met and considered the following bills without amendments:

Bill No. 6 - Agriculture, Energy and Natural Resources, An Act Respecting.

Bill No. 12 - Advanced Education and Research, An Act Respecting.

and these bills with certain amendments:

Bill No. 36 - Free Trade and Mobility within Canada Act.

Bill No. 68 - Financial Measures (2025) Act.

The Chair has been instructed to recommend these bills to the favourable consideration of this House.

THE SPEAKER « » : Ordered that these bills be read a third time on a future day.

The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE: Speaker, this concludes government business for today. I move that the House do now rise to meet again March 24^th between the hours of 4:00 p.m. and 10:00 p.m. Following the daily routine will be Third Reading.

THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is that the House rise to meet again on Monday, March 24^th from the hours of 4:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

We stand adjourned until Monday, March 24^th.

[The House rose at 4:14 p.m.]

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