HALIFAX, THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2025

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Sixty-fifth General Assembly

First Session

1:00 P.M.

SPEAKER

Hon. Danielle Barkhouse

DEPUTY SPEAKERS

John White, Marco MacLeod, Tom Taggart

THE SPEAKER » : Order. We will begin the daily routine.

The honourable member for Bedford South.

DAMIAN STOILOV « » : I rise today on a point of order. Yesterday during debate on Resolution No. 5, the member for Halifax Armdale, a physician, said the following: "I apologize for the hacking and coughing the last two weeks. Although not one to blame and shame, I did seem to start to cough on February 10^th after I shook hands with the member for Bedford South, who was coughing at that time."

By his own admission, with his ill-advised words, the member for Halifax Armdale sought to shame me in this House, my workplace. Speaker, I will set aside for a moment the real and chilling effect of accusing someone of spreading a respiratory illness since the advent of COVID, especially by a doctor. What I will highlight is the member's stated intention to shame me. Setting out to shame a fellow legislator in the House of Assembly is an act that I believe is unparliamentary.

I ask that you require the member for Halifax Armdale to apologize for his inappropriate behaviour and to take better care in his words and intentions going forward.

THE SPEAKER « » : Believe it or not, I was watching last night, even though I stepped out for a little bite to eat. I thought to myself when I heard it: How would I feel if it was said about me? I think that's how we should all look at things before we say things.

I do rule that unparliamentary. I ask the member to please stand up and retract and apologize to the honourable member for Bedford South.

The honourable member for Halifax Armdale.

ROD WILSON « » : Speaker, I offer my sincere apology to the member. It was not my intention to blame and shame. I agree that it was inappropriate, so I am truly sorry.

THE SPEAKER « » : Thank you, honourable member.

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PRESENTING AND READING PETITIONS

PRESENTING REPORTS OF COMMITTEES

TABLING REPORTS, REGULATIONS AND OTHER PAPERS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Finance and Treasury Board.

HON. JOHN LOHR « » : I beg leave to table a report titled Report of the Superintendent of Pensions on the Administration of the Pension Benefits Act for the Year Ending March 31, 2024.

THE SPEAKER « » : The report is tabled.

STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS

GOVERNMENT NOTICES OF MOTION

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Growth and Development.

HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

COLTON LEBLANC « » : In your Gallery today, we have some of our province's incredible local producers, who earlier today joined me in announcing a new Nova Scotia Loyal labelling program that will help Nova Scotians easily identify our fantastic Nova Scotia products. I would ask that they please rise as I introduce them so they can receive the warm welcome of the House: Cathy Munro with Bramble Hill Farm and Summer Street farm; Rebecca Tran and Justin Mackenzie with The Station Food Hub Company; Donna Smith-Major and Jenna Ross with the Nova Scotian Cookie Company; and Cynthia Kennedy with Axe to Grind Foods. Thank you for being here today. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Thank you for coming. We hope you enjoy your time here at the House.

The honourable Minister of Growth and Development.

RESOLUTION NO. 18

HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas Nova Scotian producers, harvesters, crafters, and manufacturers are some of the very best in the world; and

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Whereas now more than ever, it is important to support our local producers to ensure that our vibrant businesses continue to grow and thrive into the future; and

Whereas Nova Scotia Loyal is a movement that makes it easier for Nova Scotians to identify, purchase, and support our local products;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this House support this program and Nova Scotia businesses by looking for local, buying local, and committing to being Nova Scotia loyal.

Speaker, I ask for waiver of notice and passage without debate.

THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed? It is agreed.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

The honourable Minister of Justice.

HON. BECKY DRUHAN « » : Speaker, I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

BECKY DRUHAN « » : We are joined today by leadership of the Nova Scotia Human Rights Commission. I would ask for them to stand. I'd like to introduce Joe Fraser, director and CEO of the Nova Scotia Human Rights Commission, and Gola Taraschi-Carr, director of Race Relations, Equity, and Inclusion. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the People's House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable Minister of Justice.

RESOLUTION NO. 19

HON. BECKY DRUHAN « » : Speaker, I hereby give notice that on a future day I shall move the adoption of the following resolution:

Whereas the Nova Scotia Human Rights Commission is an independent government agency tasked with administering the Nova Scotia Human Rights Act and providing a dispute resolution process; and

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Whereas no significant updates to how the commission administers its mandate have been undertaken in more than a decade; and

Whereas the commission is integral to our province's work to prevent, dismantle, and resolve acts of hate and discrimination, and protect human rights;

Therefore be it resolved that all members of this Legislature support the modernization of the Human Rights Commission to ensure an accessible, inclusive, and responsive system that reflects the diverse needs and experiences of all individuals in the province today and for years to come.

Speaker, I ask for waiver of notice and passage without debate.

THE SPEAKER « » : There has been a request for waiver.

Is it agreed? It is agreed.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

Bill No. 48 - An Act to Amend Chapter 211 of the Acts of 1902, an Act to incorporate the Trustees of the Third Cornwallis or Billtown Baptist Church, Kings County. (Hon. John Lohr)

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : I beg leave to make a pair of introductions.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : I'm thrilled to welcome to Province House a globally respected leader in research on youth mental health and technology interventions in mental health, and a newly appointed Sun Life Chair in Youth Mental Health at Dalhousie University, Dr. Lori Wozney. Her research is breaking new ground that informs innovation and clinical practice and system policy in the delivery of mental health. Her passion for smashing barriers for African Nova Scotian, Indigenous, variously abled, and 2SLGBTQIA+ communities shines through in her research process and funding and mentorship of diverse graduate and post-graduate students entering the field. Beyond her impressive professional record, she's also the love of my life, the apple of my eye, and the mother of our three children.

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Beside her is my mother-in-law, Carol Fryday. Carol is a formidable woman who served her community as a family studies in elementary classroom teacher for more than three decades in various locations across Halifax County. She once held the title of May Queen of Hubbards and formed one-half of an undefeated rowing team that won the prestigious World Tuna Flat Racing title in competition against the top female rowers on earth. Her skill as a quilter, baker, and maker of preserves is immense and won top prize in several categories in the Maritime Fall Fair in the past.

I count myself blessed to have these two luminary women as pillars in my life. There is no question I married way up in the world. Their love and light make it possible for me to serve in this House. I love them both with all of my heart and invite the members of this House to extend them the warmest of welcomes. (Standing ovation)

THE SPEAKER « » : I'm just assuming that your introduction rolled into a member statement or . . . (interruptions).

PAUL WOZNEY « » : I thank the Speaker for the leeway for the lengthy introduction.

Bill No. 49 - An Act to Amend Chapter 475 of the Revised Statutes, 1989, the Trade Union Act, Respecting Strike Integrity and Worker Protection. (Paul Wozney)

Bill No. 50 - An Act to Reduce the Eligibility Threshold for the Canada-Nova Scotia Targeted Housing Benefit Rent Supplement Program and Increase the Maximum Benefit. (Hon. Derek Mombourquette)

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Bill No. 51 - An Act to Amend Chapter 475 of the Revised Statutes, 1989, the Trade Union Act, Respecting Certification. (Paul Wozney)

Bill No. 52 - An Act to Improve Access to Cancer Care Treatments. (Elizabeth Smith-McCrossin)

Bill No. 53 - An Act Respecting Healthcare for New and Expectant Mothers. (Elizabeth Smith-McCrossin)

Bill No. 54 - An Act to Amend Chapter 104 of the Revised Statutes, 1989, the Costs and Fees Act. (Hon. Iain Rankin)

Bill No. 55 - An Act to Prevent Intimate Partner Violence. (Hon. Iain Rankin)

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THE SPEAKER « » : Ordered that these bills be read a second time on a future day.

NOTICES OF MOTION

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Bedford South.

DAMIAN STOILOV « » : Speaker, I beg leave to make an introduction before I begin my statement.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

DAMIAN STOILOV « » : In the gallery, I am honoured to introduce Jay Vidhani and Ahmad Alzoubi of V Woods Nova Scotia Inc. Ahmad and Jay, I would ask you to please rise and accept a gracious welcome from everyone here in the House. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House of the People. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Bedford South.

V WOODS NOVA SCOTIA INC.: NEW BUS. - RECOG.

DAMIAN STOILOV « » : I rise today to recognize V Woods Nova Scotia Inc., a new business for sustainable forestry in the lumber-processing industry.

Jay and Ahmad are passionate about responsible forest management, critical for maintaining wildlife habitats and preventing forest fires. They are also innovators in environmental stewardship, striving to reduce waste and dependence on fossil fuels through the use of biomass heat in kiln drying wood.

Innovative entrepreneurs like Jay and Ahmad are the backbone of our province, creating good jobs and helping preserve our natural environment. I ask the members of this house to please join me in celebrating their new business.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Citadel-Sable Island.

WOZNEY, DR. LORI: RES. AWD. RECIP. - CONGRATS.

LISA LACHANCE « » : I rise today to offer my heartfelt congratulations to Dr. Lori Wozney, who has recently been honoured with the Robert Bortolussi Research Mentorship Award. This prestigious award recognizes Lori's exceptional dedication to research and her invaluable role in mentoring the next generation of researchers. As many know, Lori's work has not only advanced the field of research but has had a profound effect on her mentees, inspiring them to pursue excellence in their academic and professional careers.

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As the new Sun Life Chair in Youth Mental Health at Dalhousie University, Lori is leading research focused on improving mental health outcomes for youth in Nova Scotia and beyond. Her work is centred on understanding and addressing the mental health challenges faced by adolescents, with a particular focus on evidence-based strategies and quality mental health care. Her achievements stand as a testament to the power of mentorship.

I ask all members to extend their warmest congratulations to Dr. Wozney for this well-deserved recognition.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sydney-Membertou.

DAUGHTER, EMILY: YMCA COMPETITION WIN - CONGRATS.

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : It's always nice when you get a call from home from one of your daughters who is excited because she participated in the science, technology, engineering, and math competition at the local YMCA. The competition was to build a bridge out of paper cups and paper. She won because she built it so strong there were 270 LEGOs on top of it.

I do want to recognize the YMCA and the school system for putting on these programs for kids. They're great. They expose a lot of kids to engineering and experiments. It allows them to work on projects themselves or with groups. We're away from home a lot, and when you get those calls, it really makes your day.

Emily, congratulations. That's a lot of LEGOs for a paper bridge.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth East.

HON. TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : Speaker, I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : Speaker, in your Gallery - the Speaker's Gallery - we have two amazing residents of Dartmouth East: a former student of mine, Baden Mercer, and with him his father, Dwayne Mercer. Please stand and receive the warm welcome of this House. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Hello again. Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Dartmouth East.

MERCER, BADEN: CAMPAIGN WORK - THANKS

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HON. TIMOTHY HALMAN « » : I rise today to recognize Baden Mercer. Baden is a graduate student at Saint Mary's University, where he is completing his Master of Arts degree in Religious Studies.

Baden volunteered a significant amount of his time during my campaign, which included canvassing with constituents across Dartmouth East. Baden has been a strong advocate for accessibility rights for all Nova Scotians with disabilities. Being on the autism spectrum himself, Baden has used his own experiences and challenges to be a voice for others. After finishing his undergraduate degree, Baden was selected as valedictorian for the Bachelor of Arts program. Moving forward, Baden hopes to attend the Schulich School of Law at Dalhousie University.

Baden, thank you for your support. My family is forever indebted to you, and I wish you continued success in all that you do.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Kings South.

JULIE VANEXAN « » : Speaker, before I begin, I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

JULIE VANEXAN « » : In the gallery today, I am pleased to introduce Dan Webster and his daughter Leah from the award-winning Annapolis Valley Air Management. Dan and Leah, I ask you both to rise to accept a very warm welcome from the members of this Legislature. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We truly hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Kings South.

ANN. VALL. AIR MGMT.: BUS. AWD. RECIP. - CONGRATS.

JULIE VANEXAN « » : I rise today to congratulate Annapolis Valley Air Management for being named the Small Business of the Year at the 2024 Annapolis Valley Chamber Business Awards.

This award is given to the small business that exemplifies expansion in their workforce and business operations. AVAM, which was founded in 1979 and is locally owned and operated, specializes in heating and air conditioning for residential, commercial, and industrial customers. While HVAC is their business, this company is also known to actively engage with our community and to work with other Valley businesses to promote supporting local.

I ask members of this House of Assembly to please join me today to congratulate Annapolis Valley Air Management on being named the 2024 Small Business of the Year.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Armdale.

ROD WILSON « » : I beg leave to make an introduction related to my member statement.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

ROD WILSON « » : I'd like to introduce and ask Ms. Catherine Woodman and Ms. Maura Woodman to stand and please receive a warm welcome by the Legislature today. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Halifax Armdale.

JOAN'S TABLE: FOOD PROGRAM - THANKS

ROD WILSON « » : Today, with pleasure, I rise to pay tribute to Ms. Catherine Woodman and Ms. Maura Woodman. These two leaders launched Joan's Table in 2017, in honour of their mother and grandmother, the late Joan.

Joan's Table is a volunteer community program that provides daily meals to Herring Cove Apartments and The Rebuilding, both sites of Shelter Nova Scotia. Since it was founded, Joan's Table has provided 1,461 community meals and 43,830 individual meals by 200 volunteers, and raised over $15,000 for food security. Wow - what an accomplishment. I think Joan would be proud of you.

Please join me in thanking Catherine and Maura for making a difference in so many people's lives in our community.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.

FUREY, ANDREW: PUBLIC SERVICE - THANKS

HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : I want to recognize and thank Premier Furey for his dedicated service to the people of Newfoundland and Labrador and, quite frankly, our country.

Premier Dr. Andrew Furey brought the same compassion to public life that he did as a surgeon, always putting people first. I had the privilege of working alongside him, especially during COVID-19, when his steady leadership helped guide his province through uncertain times. His work on the Atlantic bubble showed his commitment to collaboration and making tough decisions with the well-being of people at heart.

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He's never been afraid to take a principled stand for his province, and beyond politics, he's a true friend, still sending a holiday note every year. I want to personally thank Premier Furey for his service, his friendship, and his leadership. Newfoundland and Labrador is a better place because of his service. Wishing him, his wife Allison, and their three children the best in whatever comes next.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Eastern Passage.

HON. BARBARA ADAMS « » : Before I begin my statement, I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

BARBARA ADAMS « » : Joining us today in the gallery is local restaurateur Leo Gonzáles. I ask him to rise and receive the warm welcome of the House. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here.

The honourable member for Eastern Passage.

GONZÁLEZ, LEO: GONZÁLEZ MEX. CUISINE - CONGRATS.

HON. BARBARA ADAMS « » : I rise today to congratulate Leodegario (Leo) González on the grand opening of his newest business, Mr González Mexican Cuisine. I was pleased to attend the grand opening on July 15, 2024 when the take-out restaurant opened in Eastern Passage at 1466 Main Road, just up the street from my office.

Leo, who has his Master's degree in public administration, has another location in the Yarmouth area that has had great reviews and has won numerous achievement awards. Leo prides himself on excellence and strives to provide a fresh and healthy take-out food option for our community.

I ask all members of the Nova Scotia Legislature to join me in congratulating Leo on his newest adventure. We welcome you to Eastern Passage, and we wish you the same success your founding business has achieved and more.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Citadel-Sable Island.

LISA LACHANCE « » : I beg leave to make an introduction.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

LISA LACHANCE « » : Joining us in the Gallery today are representatives from Prescott Group. I'd like to ask Andrew Thorne, David Baker, and Charlene Kuhn to rise and accept the warm welcome of the House. (Applause)

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Citadel-Sable Island.

PRESCOTT GROUP: NEW LOCATION - RECOG.

LISA LACHANCE « » : I rise to day to recognize Prescott Group, an incredible organization dedicated to helping those with intellectual disabilities find community, gain skills, and have meaningful employment.

On February 20^th, Prescott Group announced that their organization will be moving to downtown Halifax in the heart of Halifax Citadel-Sable Island. Their relocation is more than just a change in address but an incredible opportunity. Being in the heart of downtown Halifax, Prescott Group will be able to ensure that their participants have greater access to recreational programs and career development.

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Prescott's new space will also serve as a hub for diversity and inclusion through job placements and mentorship programs. The space is still under construction, but it's not hard to see the vision of what this space will become. Prescott's move is not only exciting because they will now be our neighbours, but it is also a huge milestone for the organization.

I ask you all to join me in welcoming Prescott Group to downtown Halifax. We look forward to the opportunities that this new space provides.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sydney-Membertou.

MACDONALD, KEITH: OLD FRIEND - RECOG.

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : Speaker, I rise in my place because I saw a long-time friend in the gallery last night who is here again today. His name is Keith MacDonald. Keith and I go way back to the bookstore at UCCB many years ago. I don't know if he is in the gallery or not, I can't see back there, but - oh, hey, there he is. I've known Keith now for over 20 years and his beautiful wife Nadine. We go way back to our CBU days, but Keith has now, for the last number of years, had a leadership role with Inverness.

I rise in my place - because I've never seen him in here before - to recognize my old buddy, Keith MacDonald. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Queens.

HON. KIM MASLAND: Speaker, in your Gallery today, I am so honoured to introduce Vernon Oickle, a renowned journalist and author, and his wife Nancy. I am absolutely beaming because it is always so great to be able to invite quests from home to join you in the Legislature, so I am beaming that they are here. If you are wondering why they are beaming, it's because they just recently became grandparents for the first time. They have a beautiful granddaughter, Hailey Jane. Please rise to welcome them to the House. (Applause)

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THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. I hope you enjoy your time here and congratulations. Thank you for making the long trip.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Queens.

OICKLE, VERNON: JOURNALIST & AUTHOR - RECOG.

HON. KIM MASLAND: Speaker, today I am so pleased to welcome to the Legislature one of Queens County's gems, Vernon Oickle. Vernon is an award-winning journalist and editor who has received a long list of newspaper awards. He has also received the Queen Elizabeth II's Diamond Jubilee Medal, a Distinguished Alumni Award from Lethbridge College, and in the Spring of 2020, he was inducted into the Atlantic Journalism Awards Hall of Fame.

Vernon is also the author of an impressive 39 books, both fiction and non-fiction, many of which collect, celebrate, and preserve the heritage and culture of Atlantic Canada. The seventh book in his popular "Crow" series, Seven Crows for a Secret Yet to be Told, won an International Impact Book Award, taking first place in the Historical Mystery/Thriller category. His fans have been impatiently waiting for the ninth book in the series, Nine Crows for a Kiss, which will be released this Spring.

Community-minded and willing to serve the public, Vernon has also thrown his hat into the political ring when in 2017 he ran for office for MLA for Queens. He was an incredibly worthy opponent, and I can tell you I begged him not to run against me next time.

I ask that all members join me in welcoming Vernon and his wife Nancy to the Legislature today.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Needham.

AFRICAN HER. MO.: HONOURING HEROES - RECOG.

SUZY HANSEN « » : Speaker, February marks the beginning of African Heritage Month. This month we honour the trailblazers who broke barriers, the visionaries who shaped history, and the everyday heroes who continue to push our culture forward. From the past to the present, Black history is rich with strength, creativity, and perseverance.

Let us celebrate the voices that refuse to be silenced, the hands that built nations, and the minds that revolutionize industries. We recognize the artists, the activists, the inventors, the leaders, and the dreamers who paved the way for future generations, but beyond February, this is a reminder that Black history is being made every day, and we all have a role in shaping this future. Black history is more than a month - it's a legacy, a movement, and a continuous journey of resilience, excellence, and empowerment.

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Let's uplift, educate, and continue to work. Let's celebrate Black excellence, unity, and progress not just this month but every day.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

COISH, DR. ARNOT: RETIREMENT - CONGRATS.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Speaker, today I am very pleased to rise and recognize Dr. Arnot Coish. Arnot recently retired from his position as a professor at Mount Allison University after a long career in accounting and teaching. I want to extend my sincere congratulations to him on this significant achievement.

Arnot and his wife Gladys, who are originally from St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador, lived in Amherst for over 25 years, and are both very active members of the Cumberland North community. My colleagues may recognize Gladys's name, as she has been an integral part of my team since I entered the world of politics. Arnot can always be depended on to have an honest opinion on finance-related matters. Many times, he has offered me his advice on some thoughtful ideas on issues like indexing income tax brackets and tax relief.

Speaker, I ask my colleagues to join me in congratulating Dr. Arnot Coish on his retirement and wish him all the best in his next chapter.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Inverness.

KYLE MACQUARRIE « » : I beg leave to make an introduction before I begin my statement.

THE SPEAKER « » : Please do.

KYLE MACQUARRIE « » : Joining us today in the gallery is Inverness warden and my friend, Bonny MacIsaac. With her is an old friend of the member for Sydney-Membertou, my former defence partner Keith MacDonald, CAO of the Municipality of the County of Inverness. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Welcome to the House. We hope you enjoy your time here. Maybe another MLA will start fighting over introducing you.

The honourable member for Inverness.

MACISAAC, BONNY: INVERNESS CO. WARDEN - CONGRATS.

KYLE MACQUARRIE « » : Today I bring the attention of the House to Bonny MacIsaac. Bonny is a strong leader who works tirelessly for the people of Inverness. I have been fortunate to work with Bonny on many issues for our shared constituents, and I have already learned so much from her. She is in constant communication and cares very deeply for the people of Inverness.

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Bonny MacIsaac has lived a life of service for our community. She was the first female firefighter with the Inverness Volunteer Fire Department and has been a member of many community groups and boards. Bonny is the Warden of Inverness County, although she is not the first female warden of Inverness County. That distinction goes to Bonny's friend and my mother, Betty Ann MacQuarrie, from whom I have learned so much.

I would also like to acknowledge Brenda Chisholm-Beaton, the Mayor of the Town of Port Hawkesbury. Brenda is in her third term as mayor and has a wealth of talent and experience. Inverness is blessed to have such strong and passionate female leadership providing excellent role models for girls, women, and everyone.

I ask the House to rise and applaud Bonny for her contributions to the people of Inverness and the province of Nova Scotia. Thank you, Bonny.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

COBEQUID FOOD SEC. NETWORK: PROGRAMS - THANKS

PAUL WOZNEY « » : When you can't put food on the table, very little else matters, yet 30 per cent of Nova Scotians struggle with this fundamental necessity. Today I rise in recognition of the Cobequid Food Security Network, a collective dedicated to the noble cause of keeping our community fed.

The Cobequid Food Security Network is comprised of a number of charitable organizations, local businesses, libraries, health centres, and dedicated individuals. Their various programs have proven to be a vital resource to our constituency office, just as their services have proven vital to our citizens.

The Cobequid Food Security Network is planning a pop-up food market open to all this Saturday, March 1^st from 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. at Knox United Church in Lower Sackville, featuring deeply affordable food products. This event will serve as a viability test for an affordable food market in the Sackville area.

Speaker, I ask you all to join me in thanking the Cobequid Food Security Network for their service in pioneering affordable nutrition in our community.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.

DREW, HELEN (CONNIE): DEATH OF - TRIBUTE

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HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : Speaker, I want to acknowledge the passing of Helen "Connie" Colleen Drew. She was a lifelong resident of Terence Bay, one of the most well-known Liberals from Terence Bay - Back Bay, to be exact. She has been a contributor to her church for many years, formerly the Star of the Sea Parish and later St. Joseph's Church, where the service was today. She was also active with the Heart and Stroke Foundation and the SS Atlantic Society locally in the community.

She always knew how to get things done around the community, calling people, including my office. I'll miss my many long chats with Connie. I want to extend my heartfelt condolences on behalf of the Legislature and the community as a whole.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Colchester-Musquodoboit Valley.

SCHOOL SPORTS N.S.: BASKETBALL CH'SHIPS - RECOG.

HON. SCOTT ARMSTRONG: This weekend, 48 teams from across the province will be participating in the School Sport Nova Scotia basketball championships. My own school, South Colchester Academy, is hosting the D2 championship.

I've been talking to some MLAs around this Legislature who are under the strange illusion that schools in their communities are going to win the championship. For example, Cole Harbour District High have two MLAs here. One of them actually played professional basketball. I'll leave it to you, Speaker, to guess which one. (Laughter) But for them, it's too late to give her a uniform. I don't think there's much hope for them.

Then, of course, there's the NKEC, the Northeast Kings Education Centre. That's the home district of the Minister of Finance and Treasury Board. Many people may not know this, but the Minister of Finance and Treasury Board was actually an all-Canadian basketball player in university. Unfortunately, he graduated 45 years ago, so he's ineligible. (Laughter) Good luck to all the teams this weekend.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.

HUSBAND, BIRTHDAY - BEST WISHES

LINA HAMID « » : I'd like to just take a brief moment to wish my husband, Moamen Makhlof, a very happy 38^th birthday. He is probably watching right now. He is now one of the biggest fans of Legislative TV. He has it on in the background at all times of the day that I'm here. Thank you for giving him that warm congratulations. Moamen is a dedicated life partner and a sweet and gentle father. Botates and I are beyond blessed to have such a beautiful soul in our lives. Happy Birthday. We love you and thank you for all that you do.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

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MACDONALD, CHRISTINE: FIGHTING CANCER - RECOG.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Today I rise to acknowledge my good friend Christine MacDonald of Amherst, and thank the many people who have supported Christine and her family over the past few months.

Christine owns and operates Red's Apron in downtown Amherst, where she crafts, along with her team, wholesome on-the-go meals, as well as nourishing and delicious catering services. Today, though, I'm not honouring her for that. I'm recognizing her for her fight against cancer. In typical Christine style, she is fighting this with strength, grace and determination. I also want to celebrate our community members who have stepped forward to support Christine and her family. Last Fall, there was an absolutely overwhelming fundraiser, and local folks are continuing to encourage Christine as she bravely faces this grind of travel and treatment.

I ask my colleagues to join me in wishing Christine MacDonald the very best as she forges ahead with this cancer journey, and I thank the wonderful people of Cumberland North for supporting her.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Colchester North.

BLUEBERRY MOON FARMS: NEW FREEZER - RECOG.

TOM TAGGART « » : We are all very aware of the value of farmers' markets. Equally as important are the small family farms that sell their products roadside.

Today I want to bring attention to Blueberry Moon Family Farm in Earltown, which is a family-owned operation. Tobias and Chelsea Colbourne have been operating this farm since 2022, selling wild blueberries and creating a sustainable farm with a focus on the organic principles of health, ecology, fairness and care.

They extended their season by freezing their berries at a commercial freezer for year-round sales. Unfortunately, when that commercial freezer closed unexpectedly, they and others were left in the lurch. The Colbournes, along with many other small family farmers, were left in the lurch. Thankfully, Blueberry Moon Family Farm stepped forward and installed a freezer, ensuring not only their products but also so that those of their neighbours could be maintained, extending the season and supplying local agriculture products to residents across Nova Scotia.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.

ORGANIZERS: SCHOOL BASAKETBALL PGM. - THANKS

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KENDRA COOMBES « » : Speaker, I rise to recognize Greg Campbell and Tyler Bishop for stepping up to ensure the continuation of New Waterford School Basketball at the elementary level. In September, many parents wondered what would happen with the basketball program. We were all excited to hear that it would continue with Greg and Tyler at the helm.

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New Waterford School Basketball encompasses all elementary school basketball, which includes small ball, common school, and Spring league. A huge thank you to Joanna Campbell, who volunteered her time, and the members of the Lady Bears, who volunteered their time each morning to make the small-ball program possible.

I also want to thank the coaches who volunteered their time this year for the common-school basketball. Thank you, Greg, Tyler, your families, and volunteers for keeping the elementary school basketball program alive and well at Greenfield.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Hants East.

BELLEFONTAINE, JASON & RYAN: COM. SERV. - THANKS

JOHN A. MACDONALD: Speaker, I rise today to recognize Jason Bellefontaine and his 11-year-old son Ryan of Georgefield for their extraordinary commitment to our community.

They saw a significant pile of garbage, including old paint, siding, Tyvek, open shingles, and an astounding 31 tires, along with much more stuff it would take longer than a minute to talk about, that was dropped on somebody's property. They went and cleaned it up and disposed of it where it was supposed to be, the waste management centre. Their efforts demonstrate a strong sense of responsibility and pride in our environment, setting an inspiring example of how small actions can make a big difference.

I would like to extend my deepest congratulations to Jason and Ryan for going above and beyond to keep our community clean and beautiful. Their dedication is a reminder that we all have a role to play in protecting our surroundings.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth North.

WEST, DIANNE: RETIREMENT - CONGRATS.

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : Speaker, after 36 years, Dartmouth North resident Dianne West is retiring from her volunteer role with Caring Hands, formerly called a Circle of Care. Caring Hands is a registered not-for-profit charity that recycles clothing, furniture, household items, and food. They direct these items to those in need - individuals, single parents, low-income families, immigrants, and organizations such as Adsum Court, Holly House, Freedom Foundation of Nova Scotia, Among Friends, and the Ukrainian Store furniture bank.

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Over Christmas specifically, recipients of Caring Hands' generosity received groceries, turkeys or hams, homemade baked goods, toiletries, clothing, toys, cash, and gift cards. Just as Caring Hands supports folks from all walks of life, the volunteers are also a diverse group who may never have otherwise met or worked together. They all come together under the banner of being helpful and kind.

I ask this House to join me in thanking Dianne West for doing her part to tackle poverty and food insecurity, and to spread kindness through Caring Hands over the last three decades.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Eastern Shore.

FIRESIDE MEADERY: SUCCESS - CONGRATS.

HON. KENT SMITH « » : Speaker, I rise today and extend my congratulations to Connor Jeffreys and Maria Young on the success of Fireside Meadery. Established in 2022, Fireside Meadery produces quality mead and ciders, produced entirely in Musquodoboit Harbour from our own Nova Scotia local ingredients.

After setting up their booth at the Musquodoboit Harbour Farmers' Market, Connor and Maria expanded to the Truro Farmers' Market, where they promptly sold out. Buoyed by this success, Fireside Meadery is now in the process of establishing a tasting room, where consumers will be able the sample their wares and take home a bottle of nature's best.

My congratulations to Connor and Maria are twofold. Of course, congratulations for growing their small business using local ingredients and exemplifying Nova Scotia Loyal. In addition, Connor and Maria are engaged and will be married on September 13^th of this year. Congratulations to them for their success in both aspects of life.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Needham.

ECOLOGY ACTION CENTRE: HARD WORK - THANKS

SUZY HANSEN « » : Speaker, I rise today to recognize the Ecology Action Centre. EAC is a member-based environmental charity in Nova Scotia since 1971. They have taken leadership on critical environmental issues from biodiversity protection to climate change to environmental justice. EAC's vision is to see a just and vibrant world of respect, belonging, and ecological resilience.

EAC also acts as a watchdog, convenor, mobilizer, and incubator. They engage community to create systemic changes in the face of urgent complex environmental issues. EAC is creative, resilient, fierce, and caring. They value relationships and they act with integrity. I would like to ask all members to join me in thanking the Ecology Action Centre for all of the hard work and research and the community engagement. I personally appreciate all the work that they do on all of the environmental issues.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cole Harbour.

DECHAMP, CEDRIC: LEGENDS BARBERSHOP - RECOG.

HON. LEAH MARTIN « » : Speaker, today I would like to recognize Cole Harbour community member Cedric Dechamp, owner of Legends Barbershop on Cole Harbour Road.

Mr. Dechamp started Legends Barbershop 11 years ago in Highfield Park and now has two successful businesses in Cole Harbour and Lower Sackville. The Cole Harbour location has been open for the past five years and employs nine barbers, with 10 employees in total. The business is managed by long time Cole Harbour resident Aron Borden.

Legends has become a staple of the local community which provides the Cole Harbour community with quality haircuts by local barbers who are very talented in this timeless trade.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

GATORS RINGETTE TEAM: EFFORT - RECOG.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : I rise to recognize the Nova Central Ringette U16 Gators. I have the privilege of serving as head coach to this group of 11 athletes in Grades 9 and 10 pursuing their love of ringette, the fastest game on ice. They are fun, swift, and fierce, and their heart to compete and improve is matched only by their commitment to each other. I am grateful to captains Ella Griffiths, Anna Lichodzijewski, Alexis Murray; forward Sophia Baker, Grace Killoran, Jillian Muise, and Jemma Porter; defenders Gracie Foran, Amelia McInnis and Lila Wozney; and goaltender Terrilynn Smith for the opportunity to share a team sport journey and build memories of togetherness for a lifetime.

They have been incredibly understanding when my new role in this House means I can't be at practice, although they're not shy about giving me grief about it. I couldn't be more proud of them, and I invite every member of the House to join me in a hearty cheer for them at this time. Gators on three: One, two, three.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: Gators.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : Thank you.

THE SPEAKER « » : Just a quick thank you, and that's how some things can go well that all House leaders agreed to that cheer, so thank you.

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The honourable member for Annapolis.

MURPHY, HARRISON: COM. SERV. - RECOG.

DAVID BOWLBY « » : I rise today to recognize an inspiring young leader, Harrison Murphy of Bridgetown. At just 14 years old, Harrison has already demonstrated a strong passion for politics and a deep commitment to serving our community. His eagerness to engage in civic life and help others is truly commendable. It is young people like Harrison who give us hope for the future of our province and our democracy. His dedication serves as a reminder that leadership knows no age, and our community is fortunate to have such a bright and engaging young citizen. I ask all members of this House to join me in applauding Harrison Murphy for his enthusiasm and commitment to making a difference in Annapolis.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cape Breton Centre-Whitney Pier.

FIRE DEPT. VOLUNTEERS: CHRISTMAS PARTY - RECOG.

KENDRA COOMBES « » : I rise to thank Reserve Mines Volunteer Fire Department members for their Christmas party. The hall was filled with games that included red and green cups - perfect for tower building - pin the carrot on the snowman, darts, and Jenga with gift boxes, and someone may have gotten a little competitive in tic-tac-toe. The highlight of the afternoon was Santa getting in on the fun - running around the hall, smashing the cup towers, running around the hall balancing gift boxes in his hands with dozens of kids trailing behind laughing. The entire afternoon was filled with fun, and I know many children who fell asleep before they even made it home. Thank you to the Reserve Mines Fire Department volunteers for such an amazing event.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Glace Bay-Dominion.

KING-STRONG, CAROL: RETIREMENT - CONGRATS.

JOHN WHITE « » : I rise today to recognize an amazing lady, Carol Strong. Carol is a retired licensed practical nurse, and I guess you could say she is enjoying her retirement. If you sense a bit of uncertainty in my words, you are right. Carol may be retired, but that just means she has more time to help everyone else.

The nursing profession usually attracts the most compassionate and caring of people, and Carol is indeed all of that - and more. She was the kind of nurse who took control of any situation simply by her confident and reassuring tone of voice, but her extremely professional qualities are what awarded her the utmost respect all through her profession. Carol may have hung up her nursing uniform, but to many of her friends and family, it seems that she's put on a superhero uniform. Carol, congratulations on your retirement, and from all of us who know and love you, thank you for everything you do.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Guysborough-Tracadie.

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LEONARD, JACK: ARTWORKS EAST - RECOG.

HON. GREG MORROW: I rise today to recognize Jack Leonard, the driving force behind ArtWorks East in Guysborough County. Incorporated in 2019, ArtWorks East is a collection of artists with a vision to be a community where the skills and related products of the visual arts and crafts are appreciated, shared, taught, and promoted. The items are purchased by residents and visitors both young and old. Jack's talent is leadership, and he has been the president of this group that now has more than 60 members spanning the ages of 11 through 80. Jack and his wife, Lee, have brought this vision to light and with it, brought a new spark to the art community in Guysborough County.

The growth of ArtWorks East has been largely supported by generous provincial and federal grants, as well as Arts Nova Scotia. Jack has established partnerships with the local nursing homes, Guysborough Options for Adaptive Living Society (GOALS), local outreach groups, and Mulgrave Road Theatre, and even offers art within the school district.

Speaker, the members of ArtWorks East have nothing but the highest respect for Jack and say his energy, generosity, and insight are above and beyond their expectation of leaders. Please join me in acknowledging Jack Leonard and his work with ArtWorks East.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Hammonds Plains-Lucasville.

KOTTWITZ, TERRI: FORESTKIDS EARLY LEARNING CTR. - RECOG.

RICK BURNS: Speaker, I would like to acknowledge business owner Terri Kottwitz of ForestKids Early Learning Centre. This is a locally owned and family-oriented child care facility which began to expand their business after starting over following the wildfires in Hammonds Plains.

ForestKids is a recent recipient for the funding of up to 12 new spaces through our province's child care creation program. Their programs are recognized as nurturing and stimulating as they provide daily practices that explore, investigate, and communicate through outdoor natural settings. They support children's growth in all areas: physical, social, emotional, moral, spiritual, cognitive, creative, and musical. ForestKids Early Learning Centre has earned top recognition for its commitment to the community and is officially verified for using the Cedarsong Way as well.

ForestKids Early Learning Centre is a cornerstone of our community, with a focus on nature immersion, unstructured free play, flow learning, and inquiry-based teaching. They create a dynamic environment where curiosity thrives and learning unfolds naturally.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Northside-Westmount.

NORTHSIDE BOYS: ANTIQUE CAR SHOW - THANKS

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HON. FRED TILLEY « » : Speaker, today I would like to recognize an organization in our community: the Northside Boys. Made up of hundreds of antique car enthusiasts, the club has made a huge difference in our community. Annually, they organize one of the largest car shows in Atlantic Canada, attracting visitors from all over the Maritimes and beyond to our beautiful island. This year, there were more than 300 antique cars and bikes at the show.

In addition to their shows, the Boys raise funds for local charities and have made significant contributions to our community. Just this past weekend, I attended a seniors brunch that they put on in our community. It was very well attended and very much appreciated by the seniors. Great job, guys. Speaker, I ask all members of the Legislature to join me in thanking the Northside Boys for making our community a better place to live.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Kings West.

TRAHAN, SHAWN: FIRE RESCUE - THANKS

CHRIS PALMER: Speaker, today I rise to recognize the incredible bravery of Shawn Trahan, a Kings West resident who selflessly risked his own life to rescue two individuals from a house fire on February 15^th. Mr. Trahan witnessed the fire as he was driving by and was first on the scene. In the midst of thick black smoke and dangerous flames, Shawn didn't hesitate. He struggled up snow-covered steps and into the burning home, determined to warn those inside. Despite the overwhelming conditions, he found a young woman holding a baby, both in grave danger. Without concern for his own safety, Shawn guided them out of the house, through the smoke, and into safety.

His actions that day exemplify the very best of human courage and compassion. In a moment of crisis, Shawn acted without hesitation, driven only by the belief that all life is precious. His selfless heroism serves as an inspiration to us all. I'd like to ask all members of this House to join me in extending our deepest gratitude to Shawn Trahan for his bravery. His quick thinking and unwavering determination undoubtedly saved lives. As the old saying goes, Speaker: Not all heroes wear capes. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Bedford Basin with 30 seconds.

BEDFORD LIONS CLUB: FOOD PANTRY - RECOG.

TIM OUTHIT « » : Speaker, I rise to congratulate the Bedford Lions Club on the one-year anniversary of the Community Food Pantry. Since opening, they have given out more than 11,470 items and received donations to cover the more than $6,672 in expenses. However, supplies are always needed in their storage rooms and with ongoing costs, they need continuous support from the community.

The Bedford Lions Club has proudly served their community for 75 years. The Dr. Gerald J. LeBrun Memorial Centre arena, the Lions Den, Sandy Lake park, and the Bedford Lions Park Playground are all initiatives that they're proud of. They do so much more, and they're always looking for new volunteers.

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THE SPEAKER « » : Order. Order. (Applause) That was good. The time allotted for Statements by Members has expired. The time is now 2:00 p.m., we will finish at 2:50 p.m.

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ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORAL QUESTIONS PUT BY MEMBERS TO MINISTERS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition.

PREM.: MEDIA BYPASS LETTER - EXPLAIN

CLAUDIA CHENDER: A Cabinet Minister in this government sent a letter asking supporters to help her party bypass the media. This is the same minister who was responsible for Communications Nova Scotia, the department that was responsible for getting information to the people of this province; the department that was mandated, by legislation, to be non-partisan; the department that this government has dismantled. Nova Scotians deserve to know. My question to the Premier is this: Given the fundraising letter and the demolition of this department, did the Premier give this minister a mandate to restrict information for Nova Scotians?

HON. TIM HOUSTON (The Premier) » : Absolutely not. we're open with Nova Scotians, we're transparent as a government. Nova Scotians know that. Yesterday the member called me out for defending Nova Scotians. Whether it's standing up to the Trump tariffs or calling out countries that may dump products here, we will continue to stand up for Nova Scotians. We will continue to be open and transparent. Nova Scotians can see that, and we know our obligations to them.

CLAUDIA CHENDER: Demonizing the media is dangerous and irresponsible. The Cabinet Minister overseeing the dismantling of Communications Nova Scotia solicited fundraising dollars to bypass the media. This open contempt for media is a pattern with right-wing Conservatives here in Canada and in Trump's America and it has no place in a healthy democracy. Nova Scotians did not vote to be kept in the dark by their government. My question to the Premier is: Does this Premier still have confidence in a minister who openly admits that she wants to bypass the media?

THE PREMIER « » : It's impossible for me to quantify how much confidence I have in this minister. Yesterday in Question Period, the member referred to what happens when you paint the media as the enemy. I think the member said you only have to look to the other side of the border to see what happens. In fact, that member doesn't have to look to their side of the border, she only has to turn around and look within her caucus. We have found multiple instances of the member for Halifax Armdale attacking the media online. Is it okay for her caucus to attack the media, Speaker?

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CLAUDIA CHENDER: This is the party that is soliciting funds to bypass the media and it sounds like it was the plan all along. The people of our province have a right to know how their hard-earned money is being spent and if government policies are working. Journalists help hold governments accountable by providing accurate, unbiased information to the public. They deserve respect for that role whether or not we agree with what they say. My question to the Premier is: If the Premier stands by the minister's comments, will he tell Nova Scotians when he thinks it is acceptable for government to bypass the media?

THE PREMIER « » : Listen, I've made myself available to the media every day, multiple times a day. My caucus colleagues make themselves available. We have members who spread misinformation, trying to scare Nova Scotians, trying to get a sense of division, when sitting right behind her is the member for Halifax Armdale, who called the media "highly partisan and vile", and he did that on Christmas Eve. To that I say: Bah humbug. I will be happy to table just a few of the examples of NDP caucus members attacking the media online. You will not find one example of our caucus attacking the media. We respect the media.

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. The honourable Leader of the Liberal Party.

PREM.: RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT - DISCUSS

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : The government has made a lot of noise about expanding resource development in Nova Scotia: lifting the uranium ban, lifting the fracking ban, and taking out front page ads to tell Nova Scotians how much they support it. Today, we received a FOIPOP revealing that the government spent nearly $10,000 on this advertisement, and I can table that. Words in advertisements don't translate into real projects. In reality, these developments take years to materialize. My question to the Premier « » : Beyond slogans and ads, when can Nova Scotians expect an actual fracking or uranium mining project to break ground?

THE PREMIER « » : They can expect to see a government moving forward, taking the "no" out of Nova Scotia, trying to grow our economy and make things happen in this province. They can expect to see that a lot quicker than they would have seen it under the Liberal government, who banned these activities. We are open for business in this province. We want the world to know, and we'll say it everywhere. We'll say it on front pages. We'll say it in Tim Hortons. We'll say it at conventions. We are open for Nova Scotia. This economy has to grow to support Nova Scotians, and we're the government to do it.

DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : The Premier actually supported that ban as well. My next question: The Premier has been eager to promote a stance on resource development, but what's missing is the actual plan. Earlier this month, the Minister for Municipal Affairs sent a letter to all municipalities, asking them to endorse the government's natural resources plan without providing any real details. The Nova Scotia Federation of Municipalities has responded, saying: "it is imperative we are clear on the ask and that the Province is aware of the limitations, for example, on protection of our watersheds and other water sources." I can also table that. They did not consult with the municipalities before they asked for the endorsement. It's clear that after weeks of messaging, this government hasn't done any consultations before asking municipalities for endorsements. Could the . . .

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THE PREMIER « » : Listen, the reality is the days of outright bans of entire industries in this province, they're over. Outright bans are lazy public policy. That is not the modus operandi of this government. We will do the work. We will get it done. The message to Nova Scotians is: It's time to grow. It's time to move this province forward. We are going to do that. We're looking for those problem-solvers who want to stand beside us. I am very pleased to say there are an awful lot of them in Nova Scotia.

DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : That's great. We all want to grow this province, but it's important to talk to people when you actually want to do it. What we learned is that they did not consult with the municipalities before they asked for their endorsement.

My next question: Last week, the Minister of Environment and Climate Change reaffirmed the government's commitment to protecting 20 per cent of Nova Scotia's land and water, with an urgent target of 16 per cent, by next year. My question to the Premier, and I'll ask the same question we asked the Minister of Environment and Climate Change: Does he still stick to that commitment of protecting 16 per cent of land by next year and the overall goal of 20 per cent land and water protection?

THE PREMIER « » : I think the stated goal is 15 per cent, but the reality is yes, we're protecting land. Yes, we are conscious of the need to preserve the planet for future generations. All the things we're talking about can be done safely. They can be done safely in this province. They're done safely in many other provinces and territories across this country. They're done right here in Canada. They can be done here in Nova Scotia. It's time to do it. We will not let special interest groups stop the progress of this province. Nova Scotians have a right to expect more. I hope that member stands up and supports moving this province forward when the time comes.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition.

PREM.: DECISION REVERSALS - EXPLAIN

CLAUDIA CHENDER: In the last week, the public outcry from Nova Scotians has forced this Premier to walk back changes he proposed that could limit information for the public. He's had to reverse the changes to undermine the Auditor General and now he's backtracking on access to information. These aren't the only issues. The government is limiting Nova Scotians from sharing their concerns and amendments at the Law Amendments Committee, which has existed for over 200 years. Why is this Premier so unwilling to listen to Nova Scotians who want to make their voices heard?

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THE PREMIER « » : What a statement to make. Tomorrow the member will say the Premier made changes by listening to people he never listens to. We have the confidence in this government to listen to Nova Scotians. We show that time and time again - we are not afraid. When a Nova Scotian, whether it's the Auditor General or the Commissioner, puts forward a good idea, we see that that makes sense and will make the public policy better, we do it. The committee will stand for people to come and speak on bills. That will happen. We'll listen to feedback that comes. I think the member is just upset that they haven't put actually forward a good idea for us to follow, but maybe they will some day.

CLAUDIA CHENDER: The Premier is willing to listen to the voices of the people after he tries to silence them because they get too upset. Got it. Instead of helping Nova Scotians get attached to primary care, providing protections for renters, this government has spent this sitting on other priorities, undermining the independence of the Auditor General, dropping bans on fracking and uranium with no consultation, trying to take powers away from the Information and Privacy Commissioner, vilifying anyone they label as a special interest group, fundraising to bypass the media, and putting public servants on notice that they could be fired without cause. My question is: Why didn't the Premier tell Nova Scotians about this plan during the election?

THE PREMIER « » : We love talking about health care and attaching people to health care. We've attached over 100,000 Nova Scotians by today. We love talking about our investments in the School Lunch Program and how it is helping students and families. We love talking about the housing starts in this province and all the things that are happening. We love talking about this province and the potential and it is not us who are not talking about that. We will talk about that every single day and I look forward to having those discussions about what is possible in this province because this is a wonderful province. There is a lot good happening in this province. I know there are those who try to scare people and create fear, but that's not us.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Needham.

PSC: GOVERNMENT JOB CUTS - EXPLAIN

SUZY HANSEN « » : During these times of high inflation and financial uncertainty, we need to be doing everything we can to ensure workers have stable jobs with reliable incomes. That is why we were shocked when we saw that this government is cutting 159 full-time jobs. Can the Minister of the Public Service Commission tell us why this government is cutting good-paying jobs?

HON. TWILA GROSSE » : The government did not cut 159 public service jobs. That reduction is due to attrition and retirement. Those positions were not cut.

SUZY HANSEN « » : A letter was sent out by the government's head of public service yesterday to all civil servants and said and I will quote: "In times of economic challenges, our ability to be efficient is key, and the growing expectations of citizens demand heightened responsiveness, creativity, and collaboration." Paired with the cut to workers in this government, this is essentially saying that government workers will be asked to shoulder a greater amount of work. My question is: Why is this government cutting jobs only to make others take on more work?

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TWILA GROSSE « » : That letter was sent out to invite civil servants to give their ideas as to how we could make our public service become more innovative and agile to best serve all Nova Scotians.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Citadel Sable Island.

FTB: TASK FORCE - CREATE

LISA LACHANCE « » : The U.S. tariff threat remains disruptive, already fulfilling a likely goal of creating chaos and uncertainty. Whether it's this March, this April, or whether it comes in the next four years, Nova Scotians need to work together. We have repeatedly urged this government to create a task force, with representation from business leaders, unions, and Indigenous organizations. My question for the minister is: Will you commit to creating this task force so our key stakeholders can have a say in your plans?

HON. JOHN LOHR « » : I'm proud to say that Nova Scotia has received national attention for the efforts we are making to address the issues related to tariffs, including the Premier's work, which has gotten national attention on reducing trade barriers. We've also communicated with our own industries on many occasions and continue to do so. When and if those tariffs come - and we hope they do not come - we will address it.

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LISA LACHANCE « » : All Nova Scotians need regular and transparent information about a Team Canada approach and actions and how we're faring over the coming years. At this point, the government only has a small idea to lift bans on national resource exploitation, with no consultations or clear evidence of provincial benefits. My question is: When will this government commit to actual solutions, instead of speculating on fracking and uranium mining?

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Growth and Development.

HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : We know we're facing unprecedented and uncertain times - uncertain for government that we're threatened with tariffs. One minute the goalpost is here, the next minute it's there. We know that this threat is looming over our province, and that's why, as a government, we have taken action for many weeks now.

We have engaged with Nova Scotians. We have engaged with the business community. We've taken unprecedented action. We're leading the charge on breaking down the interprovincial trade barriers. There are some great initiatives in our budget to support the growth of this province and to support the economy of this province. I hope the NDP can support it as well.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Timberlea-Prospect.

DOJ: WITNESS FEES - INCREASE

HON. IAIN RANKIN « » : Witnesses are essential to our justice system, but currently many Nova Scotians seem to have barriers to testifying in court. Witnesses are entitled to only a $5 per diem and 15 cents per kilometre. I've spoken to intimate partner violence advocate Lynn Gallant Blackburn, who has highlighted how the system could be preventing people from stepping forward, as many would have to take time away from work. Will the Minister of Justice commit to increasing witness fees, ensuring that all Nova Scotians can afford to access our justice system?

HON. BECKY DRUHAN « » : It is incredibly important that every victim in this province has the ability to access justice quickly and effectively, and that the system meets the needs of Nova Scotians. This the first that I am learning that the member opposite was interested in this issue. It's unfortunate that he didn't reach out before submitting bills on this. I look forward to discussing this further with him. We want to do absolutely everything we can to ensure our justice system meets Nova Scotians' needs. I'm happy to have the conversation with him.

IAIN RANKIN « » : The minister must have missed that I presented two motions at two separate committees, and her member supported one of them to bring advocates to the committee to discuss this very important issue. It's not just that these fees are so low, but they haven't been updated in decades. I've heard directly from Lynn, sister of the late Paula Gallant, and she could be credited with creating the reward system that the government would have put in place in a past Progressive Conservative government. I'd like to ask the Minister of Justice: Will she commit to meeting with Lynn Gallant Blackburn to learn about more suggestions on how to prevent this from happening, how to support victims, and how to make sure we keep perpetrators away from people like this?

BECKY DRUHAN « » : We will absolutely consider this. I'm more than happy to meet with the member and advocates around this question. I'm curious: If this was a challenge for decades, why didn't the member opposite take action on it when he was Premier? Now that he has brought it to my attention, I'm more than happy to consider it. As I said, we will do everything we can to improve and support the justice system to meet the needs of Nova Scotians. I look forward to the conversation.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

PREM.: THREAT OF TARIFFS - ADDRESS

PAUL WOZNEY « » : The maybe-later or maybe-by-March-4^th threat of tariffs hangs heavy over our province. This will and does require an all-hands-on-deck approach, one that we support. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing if the Legislature will be sitting, since we are the only province in this country without a legislative calendar. The people in Nova Scotia deserve to know when their representatives will be at Province House doing the necessary work to address this ongoing threat in a collaborative way. Speaker, will the Premier commit to sitting until the threat of tariffs is clear so that we can meet the threat of tariffs head-on and united as a House?

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THE SPEAKER « » : That's a question about the administration of the House. It does not relate to a government portfolio, so your question is out of order. Rephrase or ask the next question.

The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : Thank you, Chair. I'll re-frame it this way. Can the Premier explain how he intends to engage this House to address the threat . . .

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. I'll have to look at that later. I have to see what you actually called me right there. (Interruption) Chair? Oh, okay, I thought you said something else. Calm down. It's all right. I heard something else. I'm glad some people corrected it. Thank you.

The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : I'll attempt to re-frame one more time. Speaker, can the Premier explain how he intends to use this House to face the threat of tariffs head-on?

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Finance and Treasury Board.

HON. JOHN LOHR « » : We are concerned about the threat of tariffs, for sure. I can tell you that our budget, which includes a $500 million tax break for Nova Scotians, which many could consider an economic stimulus package, that $500 million that Nova Scotians - on average $1,000 per family - will not have to put out in taxes, will be spent in our economy. We're doing a record-setting for Nova Scotia capital build, which is another form of economic stimulus. We have set aside a contingency which many bond-rating agencies and banks have recognized as a good plan and applauded - a contingency fund of $200 million.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : Last year, we only sat in this Legislature for 33 days. The year before that, we only sat for 30. These are some of the shortest legislative sessions in decades. Nova Scotians deserve to know that we will have a robust session that will address the issues they're facing, including the immediate and ongoing threat of tariffs. Who in the government can tell us when we will catch up with the rest of the country and finally establish a legislative calendar?

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Growth and Development.

HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : What I can say that we will do in this Legislature is pass first-of-its-kind legislation in the country to tear down interprovincial trade barriers. We know that tearing down these barriers will generate wealth right here in Nova Scotia. It's an important piece of legislation. We know the importance of tackling this issue. Beyond north and south, we have a little east and west. We're leading the charge, and we're not going to stop.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth North.

CNS: BYPASS THE MEDIA LETTER - EXPLAIN

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : Speaker, people put their trust in us to make their voices heard on the issues that impact their families. Nova Scotians deserve to know about the values and priorities of the people they elect. The fundraising letter sent by the minister, which openly indicates an intention to "bypass the media" is deeply troubling to the people of this province. My question is: Will the minister tell Nova Scotians if she stands by these comments?

HON. LEAH MARTIN « » : We value transparency and accessibility in our communications, which is why we've opened up our communications resources to make it better for rural or digital or alternative forms of communication to be reached by all Nova Scotians. Since I have come into my position, I have met with members in the community and at the business table, and I'll continue to do that the entire time I'm here.

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : Both here in Canada and south of the border, we're seeing a disturbing trend from conservative politicians who limit access to information. The minister oversaw the demolition of Communications Nova Scotia - the department that served the people of this province for almost 30 years - and now I have to assume she wants to bypass the media, because I didn't hear an answer to that first question, a clarification. Will the minister tell Nova Scotians why she thinks it's okay to keep people in the dark?

LEAH MARTIN « » : Once again, we've actually grown our communications efforts to make it more accessible for more people to get the message in a simpler and straightforward way. I'm really proud of that. We're not keeping Nova Scotians in the dark. We would never do such a thing. Actually, what we won't do - because we're not going to stoop to those same levels - is to share the NDP fundraising letters that are super-aggressive, but we do have them.

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. (Interruptions)

The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

LSI: SCAB LABOUR - BAN

PAUL WOZNEY « » : In June, the House of Commons passed a bill with all-party support to prevent the use of scab labour during strike action and labour disputes in federally regulated industries. Workers in British Columbia and Quebec are also afforded this protection. My question to the Minister of Labour, Skills and Immigration is: Why don't Nova Scotian workers deserve these same protections too?

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HON. NOLAN YOUNG » : As the Minister of Labour, Skills and Immigration, I work to keep Nova Scotia's labour environment both fair and stable, and my job is - I'm neutral, and it's the same as the department. We're neutral.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : This isn't the only way this government is diminishing the rights of workers. Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, Quebec, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and British Columbia allow automatic union certification after a majority of employees sign a membership card. In our province, it's not so simple. Here, we require this first step but also a second step, which is a mandatory vote by all employees in a workplace seeking certification. This second step simply gives employers time to run union-busting campaigns. Why is this government so unwilling to make unionizing easier for Nova Scotia workers?

NOLAN YOUNG « » : I'd just like to say that we value all work - and all workers - that are happening in this province of Nova Scotia, and I'd like to remind the member that we have 289 agreements signed.

THE SPEAKER « » : Thank you for the apology.

The honourable member for Cumberland North.

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DHW: NEW ER POLICY - EXPLAIN

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : My question is for the Minister of Health and Wellness. Nova Scotia Health Authority has created a procedure that mandates our inpatient units at Colchester East Hants Health Centre and Cumberland Regional Health Care Centre to accept patients from the emergency department before the emergency room admitted length of stay is over 12 hours. No consultation was done with physicians or nurses at either facility before this policy came into play. There is no protection for nurses for nurse-to-patient ratios. Does the Minister of Health and Wellness approve this new policy, and does she think this is acceptable?

HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON » : We know that as a province we don't have enough beds currently in our health system. It was built for a population that was decreasing. The population was never really planned for. We knew that we were going to be in this moment in time, but unfortunately, successive governments have not adequately planned. We have made some big improvements in terms of access and flow. We now have C3. That is a provincial resource that helps us make sure that patients are cared for in the right place at the right time with the right provider. That system alone, accompanied by a program called SAFER-f, has saved over 29,000 bed days in this province since its inception. We know that access and flow is an issue. We continue to work on overcapacity. We understand that . . .

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ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : There's so much that needs to be said. I can tell you that placing a patient in a non-traditional bed area where there's no oxygen, no suction, often no call bell or Code Blue button, often not even an electrical outlet to plug the bed in, is not the right place for any patient in this province of Nova Scotia. I don't understand how the minister can support this policy. I believe it's a reflection of having people in management positions who are not doctors or nurses and have no health care experience. In fact, there's a new policy where nurses are told they're not allowed to give verbal reports. It has to be written now. My question to the minister is: How can she accept these policies from Nova Scotia Health? It's not safe.

MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : The allegations continue and continue. I would really welcome it if the member opposite would actually table some proof about all of these policies and allegations that constantly come up that undermine the trust in our health care system and the people who work day in and day out to make a difference for Nova Scotians. This doesn't hurt me, but it does hurt the morale of every health care worker in this province when somebody puts allegations on the floor that are unproven and they tear down not only the work they do but also the people who are trying to lead them through a very difficult time. If the member would like to table that policy, I'm certainly happy to speak about it.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Dartmouth North.

DHW: REPRODUCTIVE COERCION - REDUCE

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : The Transition House Association of Nova Scotia recently released a research brief, Reproductive Coercion and Intimate Partner Violence, and I'll table it. This is a form of gender-based violence that involves controlling another person's reproductive rights. The document recommends implementing access to universal, no-cost coverage of prescription contraception. Knowing that having free access to birth control can reduce reproductive coercion in this province, why does this government refuse to provide free birth control to its citizens?

HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : We currently have programs that are available to people who are seeking birth control. We have our Family Pharmacare Program, people who also have private insurance. There are also some individuals who require additional support and through the Department of Opportunities and Social Development there are opportunities for people to access birth control. We know it's an important issue. We'll continue to work throughout government to best understand how to serve Nova Scotians.

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : All of those things are true but there are lots of people who are still falling through the cracks. That is why there is a massive call across the province and across the country for barrier-free, complete access to free birth control, so that the people who don't have those opportunities are able to access birth control. There's federal funding on the table right now to provide free birth control for all Nova Scotians. This is an important and simple step for us to take to help reduce the impacts of reproductive coercion in this country. We have yet to hear a good reason as to why the government has not taken this step. I'll ask again: Why won't this government work with the feds to provide Nova Scotians with free birth control to help address the epidemic of gender-based violence?

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MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : We really are currently in negotiations with the federal government. The two departments are speaking about how best to serve Nova Scotians, what the negotiations may look like. It's not a straightforward negotiation. We have to make sure that it is a program that is sustainable when the money sunsets. It's great to get the money upfront, but eventually that money will go away. We need to make sure that we make the appropriate choices. We need to make sure that it's financially sustainable moving forward when the money sunsets. We continue to be in active negotiations. I'm very hopeful that we'll have more information soon.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Sackville-Cobequid.

DAE: STUDENT RENTERS' RIGHTS - PROTECT

PAUL WOZNEY « » : The vast majority of post-secondary students live off-campus and rent from private landlords. Many are first-time renters completely unaware of their rights and desperate to be housed near their campus. Landlords have been taking advantage of this by demanding unlawful security deposits, application fees, and guarantor requirements without consequence. Will the Minister of Advanced Education admit that more needs to be done to protect student renters in Nova Scotia?

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE: We have admitted it. That's why we've had historic investments in housing right across this province. We've had historic investments with universities and NSCC right across this province. In fact, it was so important to us that we put it in the last bilateral agreement.

PAUL WOZNEY « » : Yet this government's own Provincial Housing Needs Assessment Report found that 56 per cent of students surveyed were living in housing that required repairs; 55 per cent of these respondents said their landlord acknowledged their request but nothing was done to address repairs. The report also states that post-secondary administrators reported that students were dropping out or missing classes due to complications around housing. Does the minister agree that students should be able to focus on their coursework and not the work that should be handled by a residential tenancies enforcement unit?

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Growth and Development.

HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : I appreciate the Minister of Advanced Education starting up talking about our ground-breaking investments in housing. We know that is the solution to the housing situation in this province. As the former Minister of Service Nova Scotia and Internal Services and responsible for the Residential Tenancies Act, I want to ensure that the program I left is still in the capable hands of the existing minister, informing tenants and landlords of their rights and responsibilities and ensuring that Nova Scotians know that there is a Residential Tenancies program when there is a dispute. There is money on the table for our universities to take part in the solution, to build more housing on campus. We're supporting students. We're supporting the community housing sector and we won't stop.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Armdale.

DHW: ALLOWING PRIVATE HEALTH CARE - EXPLAIN

ROD WILSON « » : As we sit here, there are over 100,000 Nova Scotians without a family doctor and access to care. Meanwhile, private clinics in the province provide care with user fees, so if you can pay, you get to jump all the queues and there are no wait times. This is in clear violation of the Canada Health Act. Why are the minister and government allowing private for-pay care to proceed while everyday Nova Scotians wait?

HON. MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : Unfortunately, there is no legislative lever for us to be able to look at private clinics. What we have encouraged the federal government to do is open the Canada Health Act in order to give us tools and modernize that Act for us to do that, if that is the work they want. What we do say to individuals is that there is no queue-jumping. If you need diagnostic imaging, if you need bloodwork, those types of things, those clinicians are not integrated into our public health care system. We want to make sure people have universal access. It's very important that people understand what services those individuals are offering and whether or not they're integrated into our public system, which generally they are not. It really is a buyer-beware environment. Unfortunately, there's no lever for me to be able to monitor these clinics.

ROD WILSON « » : It's clear we have a two-tiered health care system in Nova Scotia, and it has impact. The federal government clawed back $1.3 million of health care funding in 2023 because patients in our province were being charged for medically necessary care. In 2024, this amount increased to nearly $1.8 million. I've tabled the Health Canada documents. One point eight million dollars would fund five family doctors and serve nearly 7,000 people. My question is: How much will the federal government claw back in 2025 from the Province of Nova Scotia because this government is allowing two-tiered health care?

MICHELLE THOMPSON « » : As a government, we are totally committed to a publicly funded health care system, and we have invested historic amounts of money into our health care system in order to demonstrate that to Nova Scotians. There are a number of private companies that we have a public-private partnership with, so people can reach out to them. We have contracts with them to make sure that people - not queue-jumping - have the opportunity to use every asset in our province in order to make sure people get the care they need.

Maybe that's with Halifax Vision Surgical Centre. Maybe that's with the MRI machine. Maybe that's with all of our incredible pharmacists, who helped us immunize a number of patients and see thousands of individuals with strep throat. We're going to continue to leverage every opportunity we have to provide access to care to Nova Scotians, and we appreciate our private partners who are willing to work in a publicly funded system with us.

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THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Leader of the Liberal Party.

ACSW: TRANSITION HOUSE FUNDING - EXTEND

HON. DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : My question is for the Minister responsible for the Advisory Council on the Status of Women Act regarding Nova Scotia's ongoing epidemic of domestic violence. In 2023, the government provided an additional $8 million for transition houses across Nova Scotia. Advocates have let us know that this funding is essential to operating safe shelters that are able to effectively help women escaping violence and abuse. Unfortunately, this funding will expire on March 31^st of this year.

The Premier has indicated that he's open to extending this funding, but transition houses across Nova Scotia are looking for a concrete commitment from the government. Can the minister confirm that this funding will be extended?

HON. LEAH MARTIN « » : Transition houses are a very important part of our service provider organizations. We value the life-saving work that they do, which is why we'll continue to work in collaboration with them, to hear from them all the time. They provide a circle of support; they provide safety; they provide food, and they provide shelter at a time when it is absolutely needed the most.

We'll continue to listen, and we've done that listening since I've been here, both with the Premier and multiple ministers within the Cabinet. We're really proud of that. We'll continue to have an open conversation with them. On top of a historic $7.7 million infusion into the operating costs in the sector, work is happening government-wide that I'm very proud to speak more on soon.

THE SPEAKER « » : Just a reminder before we move on to speak through me.

The honourable Leader of the Liberal Party. (Laughter)

DEREK MOMBOURQUETTE « » : We're just two guys here. We're just trying to do our thing here. Come on - show us a little bit of love, Speaker.

I hope that funding is recommitted. It's important. I'm asking these questions on behalf of advocates who we're speaking to. Transition houses across Nova Scotia need double the staffing to operate safely and effectively. The Transition House Association of Nova Scotia has come up with a funding formula to ensure adequate staffing levels across the province. Will the minister commit to working with the Transition House Association of Nova Scotia to implement this formula and ensure transition houses have adequate staff?

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LEAH MARTIN « » : I'm actually really proud to say that we have offered funding for double-staffing already, so thank you for the question. I'm happy to stand by that funding. The member opposite also does realize the timing of year-end. There will be more to say in the coming days, but I do appreciate the question, and we appreciate the work that the service provider organizations provide to us. We'll continue to listen to them and work with them on a regular basis.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Chebucto.

GAD: SMALL GROWERS - SUPPORT

KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : Small growers across the province are being left out in the cold with this government's Nova Scotia Loyal investments. To date, these investments are only benefiting growers who can produce enough to sell in big box stores. When will the government support the plethora of small growers we have in the province?

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HON. COLTON LEBLANC « » : This morning, I was joined by some smaller producers who contribute to our local economy to announce a new program, a labelling program to support our harvesters, our growers, our crafters, our manufacturers, to get the Nova Scotia Loyal branding right on the product. That is what we've heard. We are actually listening, contrary to what the NDP are saying, that we are not listening to folks. We are actually listening to businesses, and that is something they've asked for.

Actually, I have reached out to the larger big box stores to get Nova Scotia Loyal there, and I've personally reached out to a store in my constituency - a shout-out to Carl's Store for taking part in the Nova Scotia Loyal program. I encourage all the members of this House to do the same and encourage their small retailers to join Nova Scotia Loyal.

KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : A Dalhousie University researcher found that, in the moment of high food prices, farmers' markets showed smaller price increases than grocery stores. Farmers' markets have paired smaller price increases with flattening or declining profit margins, while conventional grocery stores continue to increase theirs. Yet the Nova Scotia Loyal program includes significant investment in larger grocery chains. This government's investment in farmers' markets is great, but it is not enough. Will this government fix their priorities and provide farmers' markets with the support that they desperately need?

COLTON LEBLANC « » : I've heard directly from some of our Nova Scotia Loyal partners that they are happy that we are supporting farmers' markets. They are happy to be in the big box stores. What is missing in part of this discussion about being in a big box store is that it is a pay-to-play environment. What we're doing as a government is we are supporting our growers, crafters, manufacturers to get on shelves that otherwise they would not have had the opportunity to get on. Over 162 producers, over 1,771 eligible local products are now on store shelves, that otherwise, without this program, would not have happened. We will double down, will continue to support Nova Scotia Loyal, and I encourage all members to look for and be Nova Scotia Loyal.

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THE SPEAKER « » : May I ask that we turn the microphone off for Halifax Chebucto.

The honourable member for Halifax Citadel-Sable Island.

OLA: INDIGENOUS TAX RELIEF - ENSURE

LISA LACHANCE « » : Speaker, my question is for the Minister responsible for L'nu Affairs. It has been an ongoing concern of the Assembly of Nova Scotia Mi'kmaw Chiefs that there are inconsistencies across the province related to point-of-sale tax relief for status Indians. What this looks like is that individuals are often stuck at the cash of national chains or local stores, educating businesses on their status rights, from what counts as proof of status to what the CRA regulations are. What is the minister doing to relieve this unjust burden and to ensure businesses across Nova Scotia are knowledgeable about this right?

HON. LEAH MARTIN « » : I stand here as a proud member of Millbrook First Nation, the first in this Legislature. (Applause) I take a lot of pride in my position here in the House, and I take a lot of pride as a community member. What I will say is that with that pride comes great responsibility. I will continue to listen to my people; I will continue to listen to the people of Nova Scotia and do as much as I possibly can to work together in collaboration with this government.

LISA LACHANCE « » : I appreciate the minister's words. Definitely, this was something that I discussed with the chief of Millbrook six months ago, so I know that it's a live concern in that community. I have also stood by and witnessed my child who holds a status card try and negotiate at cash for the tax relief. We need to make sure that people have equal access and that a standardized system is in place. Ontario does this; they have a standardized approach. Will the minister commit to working with the Assembly of Nova Scotia Mi'kmaw Chiefs to ensure full provincial compliance of this right?

LEAH MARTIN « » : I find it a little hard to say or to hear or to listen when the minister says "that community." That community is my community. That community is a collaboration in nationhood. I do really want to honour that Nation. I want to honour my community, and I want to honour that we are listening. I am glad to hear that the member stopped in, and I encourage them to do that more often.

THE SPEAKER « » : Order, please. The time allotted for Oral Questions Put by Members to Ministers has expired.

The honourable member for Cumberland North.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Speaker, I would like to stand on a point of privilege.

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THE SPEAKER « » : Okay.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : Yesterday, I spoke in this House, and I talked about our nurses, and today in Question Period, I'm sharing the concerns. Yesterday, the member for Halifax Atlantic and today the Minister of Health and Wellness, both times, are demeaning my character and discrediting my words. I feel I should be able to . . .

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. For a point of privilege, we have to receive notice. You're stating it happened yesterday. We didn't receive notice. If the member would like to give notice, we can deal with what happened formerly, but if something happened today, I will listen to what the member has to say.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : I just feel strongly that I should be able to ask a question on behalf of nurses or anyone else in this province without being told that I'm fearmongering or that what I'm saying is not true. It has happened continually. Today is not the first time it happened. I don't really like standing and making these points of privilege, but after a while, it takes its toll. I don't think I should have to have those kinds of responses. I feel like I should be able to ask questions here in this House without those kinds of responses demeaning my character.

THE SPEAKER « » : I'd like to ask the member which privilege is being breached.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : My privilege of being able to stand and speak in this House without fear of being discredited.

THE SPEAKER « » : Order.

Is there anyone else who would like to speak to this? If not, I would - well, if you would like to speak again.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : The only last thing I'd like to say, Speaker, is that the Premier just put his head down, laughed at me, and made a derogatory comment. These are the . . .

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. How do you know that?

The honourable member for Eastern Passage.

HON. BARBARA ADAMS « » : Speaker, with all due respect, the member has no idea what the Premier just said or thought.

THE SPEAKER « » : This is what I'm going to do. I have taken note of your point of privilege. I'm going to take it under advisement, going to discuss it, and will get back to you. I promise you that.

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The honourable member Halifax Citadel-Sable Island.

LISA LACHANCE « » : Speaker, I rise on a point of order. Earlier in Question Period, the Premier used unparliamentary language referring to the Leader as spreading misinformation. I believe that is unparliamentary language, and we would like it retracted.

THE SPEAKER « » : I got tuned in for that the other day because I was misusing it, which is why I now let "you" go sometimes when somebody is - not "you go" as in "you go," but as in "y-o-u" go sometimes. What needs to happen is that you have to take the intent. It's all new to me. I'm learning my job - eight days here. You have to take whether the room starts losing their mind and how I feel. I could read it for you. I actually just brought it up, if you'd like, or you can look in the green book, and you can find it yourself.

I thought today went well - got a lot of questions in. Everybody behaved - well, never behaved. That's the wrong term of words, but everybody was, I thought, gracious to each other to a certain extent. I didn't hear anyone scream or yell from that side. The only time was when I thought the honourable member called (inaudible) . . . something else. I was corrected. I stand corrected, and I apologize for that.

No, I didn't hear the House lose their mind. No. Are you standing on a different point of order? Okay. That's enough of this. I'm not - I remember the first day I let a member stand up, then I got more information. The House on this side went - got angry at me, because I allowed that member to talk. Now everybody seems to think that they can stand two or three times on a point of order. I'm not allowing that anymore.

The . . .

AN HONOURABLE MEMBER: We're not allowed to stand on a point of order?

THE SPEAKER « » : I asked her if it was a new point of order, did I not? Should I implore you yet another day to look at the video?

The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE: Pursuant to Rule 5C, I move that the hours for February 28^th be not 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. but instead be 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is that the hours for Friday, February 28^th be not from 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. but 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

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GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE: Would you please call the order of business Government Motions.

GOVERNMENT MOTIONS

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Government House Leader.

HON. BRENDAN MAGUIRE: Speaker, I do move that you do now leave the Chair and the House resolve itself into Committee of the Whole House on Supply.

The honourable member for Dartmouth North.

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : I am going to spend a few minutes, for the benefit of the Minister of Communities, Culture, Tourism and Heritage, talking a bit about the value of culture and heritage to our communities and to our budget, saying a few words about my thoughts on the budget, and asking a few questions.

Since I was elected in 2017, we Nova Scotians have faced our share of struggles. We've faced floods, fires, and plagues. Now we also face the threat of U.S. tariffs, the threat of the removal of fundamental human rights at the hands of right-wing governments around the globe, and we still face the threat of climate-related disasters.

It feels like heavy times, and heavy times call for community. We find community in all sorts of places. We find it in our neighbourhoods. We find it in churches and other places of worship. We find it in Legions, in community halls around the province, on sports fields and rinks, and in art spaces.

It's no secret that being the spokesperson for CCTH is a special interest of mine - speaking of special interests. I feel strongly about the importance of this department and the funding it provides to organizations around the province. I grew up as an athlete. I played organized sports from Grade 2 to second year university, when I finished my athletic career playing fullback and scrum-half for the King's UKC Blue Devils in rugby. Thank you very much. I gave up my soccer career to play rugby. I still think that was a terrible idea, but whatever. It's over now.

I also take great pride in watching my own children in their hockey life. They are both proud Dartmouth Whalers hockey players and they find great satisfaction in playing, not only because it keeps them healthy and gets them tired at the end of the night, but also because they have a great time with their teammates. They have strong friendships and bonds. It is quite special to watch.

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I also made my career in the arts and culture sector. I'm an actor. I ran a theatre company for 15-plus years. I've been on stages all around the province and all around the country, actually. I performed in small arts spaces across the country and large ones. I think of my tour of Newfoundland and Labrador with Mermaid Theatre of Nova Scotia. A shout-out to Mermaid, one of our flagship institutions in this province. We'll get to Ship's Company Theatre in a second.

In that tour of Newfoundland and Labrador, I toured in little, teeny-weeny elementary school gyms, and in all the arts and culture centres across the province. I've seen my share of arts spaces. I've done my share of performance. I've also been in lots of film and television. I understand very deeply and very personally what our film sector means to Nova Scotia. In my family's case, it means that we were able to pay the bills. It means that we get to see our great province on screens across the world. Both of those things are equally important, I think.

When we talk about arts and culture - and when I say "culture," I don't just mean arts and crafts and culture. I mean sport as part of culture. I mean music as part of culture. I mean those as very broad terms.

I will remind the House - I've said this quotation before - that on our $20 bill there's a quote about the arts by Gabrielle Roy, who was a Canadian novelist. It says, "Could we ever know each other in the slightest without the arts?" It's on our money.

We know that art heals and brings us together. It allows us to consider ideas in new ways - to laugh, and to consider what it means to be people, what it means to be human beings in this time and place and space, but also what it means to be Nova Scotian, and what it means to be Canadian, and all those questions we are really grappling with right now.

Canadian pride is at a fever pitch right now because of the threats we're experiencing from the U.S. In some ways, that makes me feel like nationalism is a precarious place to be. But also, I want to be Canadian, and I don't want to be absorbed by the United States - for all kinds of reasons. One of them is because we have a particular culture in this province, in this country. The arts and culture that are created here and the sports teams who represent us signify that.

I've talked a lot in this Legislature about art and the importance of it. I know that I've been heard. I was thinking about this last night when it was a difficult time in here. There was a lot of tension, a lot of anger and vitriol, I would say, being tossed around from both sides. I was thinking about the times when I have talked about arts and culture, and I've been listened to by this government. I have had the pleasure of working with various Ministers of Communities, Culture, Tourism and Heritage - in the Liberal government and in this government - as an Opposition member.

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I remember the day that Allan MacMaster gave his Budget Speech. I forget how many years it had been since professional arts funding had been frozen when Allan MacMaster gave that speech. He looked at me when he delivered that line. He was like: This is directly for operating funding. He sort of delivered the line over to my seat over here, and I started crying because I was so relieved that finally the government had listened, put their money where their mouths were, and made that change. I remain grateful for that change. I remain grateful that that department hasn't had that taken away or cut.

Now I'm going to try something else because something that I'm hearing about a lot in this province - and I have spoken with some people in the department about this - is the need for ongoing funding for art spaces.

Ship's Company Theatre is a good example. My colleague from Cumberland South mentioned Ship's Company in Parrsboro as a great example of a wonderfully historic Nova Scotian art space. We can talk about the new theatre that Mulgrave Road Theatre co-op is getting in Guysborough. We can talk about the Bus Stop Theatre on Gottingen Street. We can talk about the Light House Arts Centre in the city. We can talk about the new deCoste Centre in Pictou - also a place where I performed. I feel like Yarmouth got some funding for their performing arts centre a while ago. All that money is important for capital investment.

We also know that the federal government, through Heritage Canada, gives a lot of money, and municipalities give a lot of money. What happens is that when all that capital campaign and the hubbub of an exciting new building, an exciting new space, or a renovated space ends - the Bus Stop Theatre doesn't leak anymore, thank the Lord - there are still costs that are associated with running a space. There is no place for arts organizations to go at the province for smaller amounts of money to do space maintenance - to put a new roof on, fix a leak in the siding, or change out seating - that kind of stuff. It's one thing to have the spaces - it's amazing. I don't need to sell that on anyone - that these spaces in all our communities, especially rural communities, are so essential.

Another good example is the theatre in Baddeck. Who represents Baddeck? Anyone? Isn't it an exciting thing, the new theatre in Baddeck?

AN HON. MEMBER: The Marigold.

SUSAN LEBLANC « » : Yes, the Marigold Theatre.

I implore the minister to hear me. I also will put another plug in for that operating money that was so integral and important to organizations. It needs to continue. We can't have it frozen again for another 20 years. We need to keep recognizing that these institutions and these organizations - be they tiny little theatre companies to the Art Gallery of Nova Scotia or Celtic Colours and organizations that - at that level, need ongoing funding because as costs rise, wages need to go up. Everything is more expensive to buy and to produce this important stuff.

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I want to make the case for increasing the arts budget more. Years ago, I tabled a piece of legislation on making the arts budget of Nova Scotia 1 per cent of the entire budget. That would mean that as the budget grows, the arts budget grows. It is something that has been done in other jurisdictions across the world. Many other countries and provinces do spend more per capita on arts funding than we do in Nova Scotia. Again, I will recognize that we have had some increases lately, but they need to keep going.

The last thing I'll say in this time is that we spend a lot of money on our tourism strategy. We are Canada's . . . What is the new slogan? Your ocean playground. We are your ocean playground, people of the world, and when you come to our ocean playground to spend your hard-earned tourism dollars, you're going to want to see what we have to offer. That means our great chefs. That means our great theatre. That means our amazing music scene. That means our Indigenous culture, history spaces, and museum spaces. It means our African Nova Scotian Music Association. It means all that stuff. If we're going to spend all that money getting people here, then we need to spend money on the things that they're coming to - I hate to use the word "consume," but that's what it is. It's our music. It's our food. It's our people. It's our history. All of that is reflected in Communities, Culture, Tourism and Heritage. I urge the government, as we go forward in this mandate, to look at changing the allocation of money to that department to 1 per cent of the overall budget.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Minister of Finance and Treasury Board.

HON. JOHN LOHR « » : Speaker, it's a pleasure to get up and say a few words about the historic budget that we have heard this coming year. I'm very proud of this government. I know when you say the word "historic," people think, well, everyone will say that. I want to give three reasons why this is a historic budget for your information.

The first reason that it is a historic budget is that it has a $500 million tax cut this year for Nova Scotians. As you know, we have approximately one million people in Nova Scotia. That's $500 for every person - about $1,000 for every family in Nova Scotia. This will make a difference in the lives of Nova Scotians. Nova Scotians will feel this tax decrease. They will see that it makes life more affordable for them. I'm very proud of that, and I do want to unpack the details of that tax break, the different aspects of it, in a minute.

Before I get to that, though, I want to say that we also have a $2.35 billion capital plan for Nova Scotia, which is a historic capital plan. We're building hospitals. We're building schools. We're building seniors and long-term care facilities. We're building public housing. We continue to invest in much-needed public housing, the first investment in more than 30 years. We're building schools where we need them. I can't tell you how proud I am of that. I know the Opposition has asked if we can afford that. I say we can't afford to not do it. We have to do it. We're building good things for Nova Scotians. I'll get back to that.

The third thing I want to talk about as historic in our budget is the increase in the school food lunch program. What I want to tell Nova Scotians is that when we were discussing doing a school food lunch program about 14 or 15 months ago, we recognized that it was a big lift. It was a daunting challenge. We weren't sure, to be honest, how it would go. One of the things we recognized at that time was that we really have three different types of schools. We had schools that had a cafeteria and good infrastructure, we had schools that had a little bit of infrastructure, and we had schools that had nothing, virtually no infrastructure.

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We realized at the time through the Department of Education and Early Childhood Development that there would need to be three different sort of run-ins. I can tell you that it was an all-government lift. Multiple departments were involved. What I really want you to know is that that program was a success because ordinary Nova Scotians working in these schools made it work.

I just want to express my appreciation to those Nova Scotians working in our schools who did the big lift. I know of one individual - and I don't really want to give too many details - who stepped in when the cafeteria manager in that school was overwhelmed in October. An individual who worked in the school in a completely different role stepped in and made that school food lunch program run in that school for a number of months until another individual was hired to actually take it over. That individual went back to their ordinary job in the school.

It was a case of somebody stepping in and saying this program is going to work. I know that happened in that one school. I know it had to have happened in more schools where ordinary Nova Scotians stepped up and made that program work. I just want to express my gratitude to them for that.

I also want to let them know that for reasons I don't understand, the Opposition voted against our school food lunch program. They may say they like it, but they voted against it last year, which I'm very disappointed about.

What you need to know about this historic budget is that we did not plan to ramp up the Nova Scotia School Lunch Program this year. That was not - the type of increase we're doing in it this year was not planned, because we did not understand - we did not anticipate it would be as successful as it was. The roll-in was more successful than expected simply because the people who work in schools made it work. I just want to again say that.

We are going from a $20 million school lunch program to an $80 million school lunch program. That is a 400 per cent increase in our school lunch program, which will be another 29,000 students getting that school lunch program as it advances into the middle schools around the province. Again, this will be a big lift, but I know ordinary Nova Scotians working in our schools and our Department of Education and Early Childhood Development - I give kudos to them - and I know other departments were involved in that big lift, will make it happen.

This is another opportunity for our Opposition to redeem themselves and say, Yes, we will vote for that $80 million school lunch program. I'll ask them to do that. I hope they will.

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That is a historic moment for our schools. It means that students will no longer have to do math class or English class or phys. ed. with a hungry stomach. They will no longer be - they will have a proper healthy lunch. I can't tell you how proud I am of our government for taking that big lift, for facing that challenge, and for taking it on. I can't tell you how proud I am of the people in our schools who made it work. Thank you to all of them.

Speaker, our $500 million tax cut: The first thing I want you to know about our $500 million tax cut is that there is a 1 per cent reduction in HST. HST, on April 1^st, will go from 15 per cent to 14 per cent. This may sound like a small amount, but this is a couple hundred million dollars. I believe it's in the range of - I have the number here - I'll go by memory. It's in the range of a $250 million tax cut for Nova Scotians.

This is the first change in HST since 2010 and the second change since 2008. What happened in 2008? The then-Harper government - in 2008, HST was split between federal and provincial: 7 per cent federal and 8 per cent provincial. In 2008, the federal Conservative government of Stephen Harper reduced the federal portion to 5 per cent. It went, for Nova Scotians, from a 15 per cent to a 13 per cent HST, which was a big cut.

In 2010, the then-Dexter government - the NDP government - raised the provincial portion from 8 per cent to 10 per cent, so we went back to having a 15 per cent HST. It was a massive increase in taxes for our province.

I'm very proud to be part of a government that recognizes the tax burden on ordinary Nova Scotians, which is dealing with this tax burden by reducing our HST by 1 per cent, which will save Nova Scotians in the range of $200 million to $300 million.

Another tax cut we are doing is raising the basic personal exemption. That means, when you fill out your tax form, there is an amount that is your basic personal exemption. It hasn't changed in a long time. But we all know that, when you go to the grocery store, milk is more expensive than it was a couple of years ago. Eggs are more expensive. Gasoline is more expensive. All of these things are more expensive. The cost of living goes up, but the basic personal exemption was staying the same.

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We are raising the basic personal exemption by $3,000 for every person in Nova Scotia. That is a massive tax decrease. It will mean more money in the pockets of Nova Scotians across our province. It is in the range of a couple hundred million dollars. I'm very proud of our government for doing that. I know that Nova Scotians will notice that when they fill out their tax forms. They'll have more money. They'll have more money back in refunds. They will have more money to spend on necessities.

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Another tax break that we are giving Nova Scotians that we started last year - I credit the former Minister of Finance and Treasury Board - is we are indexing tax brackets. This will, over time, be the largest cut ever in the history of Nova Scotia.

What was happening was that the tax brackets that dictated how much tax you paid just didn't change. Twenty thousand dollars was a lot of money when I started working a long time ago, as the member for Colchester-Musquodoboit Valley referenced earlier. The brackets have never changed, and the rate that you paid on that bracket, but we are indexing them to inflation. As the brackets change with inflation, the amount of money that we pay in each bracket is reduced. It amounts to a lot of money and going forward, 10 years from now, it will be hundreds of millions of dollars. This year it's less than $100 million, but it's significant. I believe it's a $70 to $80 million tax break for Nova Scotians.

At the same time, we're increasing the minimum wage. The minimum wage is going up. I'm very proud of that, too. We're working hard to put more money in Nova Scotians' pockets to increase the wages for those who earn the least in Nova Scotia.

We are also indexing the amount that Nova Scotians who are on income assistance receive, so that goes up as well by the CPI, Consumer Price Index. I'll credit the former Minister of Community Services, the member for Halifax Atlantic, for asking for that on behalf of recipients of income assistance. We realize that if you're on income assistance, life is tough, and we wanted to index that. That means that every year, the amount that people receive on income assistance will rise by the amount the Consumer Price Index rises, or inflation.

Another important thing we are doing in this budget is we are bringing in free shingles vaccines for everyone over 65 years old. I can't tell you how important that is for our province and what a difference that will make. I'm sure all of you have gotten emails asking when that starts. We are getting those emails all the time. The Department of Health and Wellness will announce the roll-in. The reality is, we know the demand for that vaccine is massive. We have pre-ordered the vaccine, so when we start the program, there will be enough vaccine on hand so everybody who wants that vaccine will have it.

We know that the first year that it's available, we'll have everybody over 65 and up who wants it will take it. Then, in the future years, it will be a smaller number as those turning 65 who want the vaccine will take it. The initial year is a huge lift. It's in the range of $27, 28, 29 million, but it's my belief that this program will actually save us money going into the future. After this first year, the annual amount that will be spent on the shingles vaccine for the cohort that turned 65 in the previous year will be in the $3, 4, 5 million range.

That will probably be less than the cost of treating people with shingles in our hospitals. That's the reality. There's probably a money-saving component to that. I know it is. Even without that, it's the right thing to do. Shingles is a terrible condition. I have not personally suffered from it, but anybody who has knows that.

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Likewise, we are funding the RSV virus, which is a smaller number. Less money, less cost, but the two together are in the range of about $33 million. It is a big lift for our province to do this, but I can't tell you how important these things are for our province.

I want Nova Scotians to know, too, that we are taking the cost of parking off in our hospitals. If you need to go to the emergency, if you need to go to the hospital, you shouldn't be wondering if you have the money in your pocket to pay to get in and out of the hospital parking lot. That's in this year's budget. We respect the fact that we don't want to create barriers to health care for individuals, and we know for some people this may actually be a barrier to health care. We don't want to do that.

We are doing a historic lift on capital spending on hospitals, on schools. My colleagues in the Bedford area - they need schools in Bedford. We are building schools in the Bedford area. As our province grows, we need new schools, we need better schools, we need more schools. We're building schools. We're building hospitals. We're building public housing. We're building roads. We're on a historic build for seniors in long-term care. I credit the Minister of Seniors and Long-term Care. We're in the 5,000- to 6,000-bed range build in Seniors and Long-term Care.

Before our government came to power in 2021, the last build in Seniors and Long-term Care went back to the Rodney MacDonald government. The NDP government had opened them, but they didn't announce any new builds. After that, in 2018-2019, there were a couple of builds announced by the Stephen McNeil government. I do want to give credit to them.

What we learned during COVID was that we could not have two seniors in one room, sharing a bathroom, and not have COVID spread. We knew we had to build new - a huge lift from the Department of Seniors and Long-term Care, and we're doing it.

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Cumberland North.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : I'd like to stand and speak on Supply today and discuss some of the current situations in our health care system.

It's been my life mission to try to create excellence in health care. My mission is personal, rooted in the profound loss of my mom when she was only 28 years old. She was diagnosed with melanoma around the same time that I was born and passed away, tragically, about five years after she was diagnosed. She had a mole that went undiagnosed for too long, and by the time it was removed, her cancer had already spread through her lymphatic system.

My only memories of my mom are of her time in hospital. The nurses who cared for her, in my mind, as a young girl, were angels taking care of her. Their compassion and their dedication inspired me to want to become a nurse and devote my life to improving health care.

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The current state of health care here in Nova Scotia is. . .

THE SPEAKER « » : I'm sorry, honourable member.

The noise is very loud, and it's not coming from in here. Can you hear - well, I know you can hear - I can hear it. I'm just going to ask someone - all right.

The honourable member for Cumberland North.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCROSSIN: I rise today to speak about the current state in our health care system as an urgent call to action. To foster an improved environment where frontline workers can have their voices heard without fear of retribution. Yesterday, even when I shared the concerns of nurses here in this province, I was shamed by another member of this House, and I'll table the documents.

The member from Halifax Atlantic stood and said:

Then I heard the member for Cumberland North make accusations against bureaucrats and people who work in the public sector and party members, knowing that they can't defend themselves, and knowing that you have the ability to say whatever you want in this House. You say nurses are under threat, that they're scared to go to work, and you have nothing to table, no proof to show. Is it a difficult job? Absolutely.

I want to table that. The fact of the matter is, as the elected representative for Cumberland North, but also as one of the only rural MLAs in Opposition, I do have a responsibility to speak on behalf of the many nurses who have reached out to me from around the province. I should be able to do that without other members standing and alleging that what I'm saying is false.

Our nurses deserve better. Our doctors deserve better, and our frontline workers in health care deserve better. The fact of the matter is, right now, many of them do not feel safe in speaking up about the current situations. In the Fall, one of our doctors spoke up, and he was threatened. His job was threatened by management of the Nova Scotia Health Authority. He was told that he could be fired. His response was, Go ahead, fire me. And he went ahead and spoke to media. I'm so proud of him.

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But our doctors and our nurses shouldn't be threatened. Our doctors and our nurses should be able to speak up about the care and the current situation, in an attempt to try to make things better, without fear of losing their jobs. Right now, that's not the circumstance. That's not the situation.

The first thing I want to call on the government to do is to improve the workplace culture for those who are working here in our health care system. If nurses or doctors have feedback, they should be able to provide it freely and safely. Health care is a teamwork environment. Teamwork is needed to provide safe and effective care for the patients.

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Second is governance. As discussed previously here in this House and highlighted again yesterday in Question Period by the member for Halifax Armdale, we continue to see policies from the Nova Scotia Health Authority that compromise patient care. The only explanation that I can offer, and sometimes others in the system, is that individuals making these decisions may not understand the direct implications. The most recent example is the policy that I tabled last Friday here in the House and then again today. I'll table it today as I speak to it.

This is a procedure that was given on Friday, February 14^th. It is called "Inpatient Bed Assignment When ED Triggers Are Met."

This procedure outlines the process to support patient transfers from the Emergency Department (ED) to an appropriate inpatient unit when all inpatient beds are occupied or have been allocated to incoming patients and there is identified pressure in the ED characterized by offload delay approaching cut-off time . . . and ED admitted length of stay (LOS) over 12 hours.

Each inpatient unit is to have three patients identified in the Patient Manager (PM) Tile as "Non-Traditional Care Space (NTCS) appropriate" (as per C3 Non-Traditional Care Space Identification Procedure).

In November, I was contacted by nurses and doctors because patients were being placed consistently in non-traditional bed areas in the hospital. They invited me to come and take a look. I actually wept after I went to the hospital and saw the conditions that the patients were in. As a nurse, and just as a normal human being, it was so sad to see the conditions.

Doctors and I spoke out and thankfully the Nova Scotia Nurses Union came, met with management and explained that this is not safe for nurses to practice in and was not conducive to safe patient care. The practice stopped for a period of time.

For a period of time, patients were no longer placed in non-traditional bed areas in the hospital. Then, about a month ago, the practice started up again. Now there's an actual written procedure documented that the nurse managers and patients on the units have no choice but to accept patients onto their inpatient unit even if there are no beds available.

Doctors were not consulted; nurses were not consulted before this policy came into play. In fact, I'll read from one of the pages here. It says that attending physicians will be notified and approval is not required of the patient moving.

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It's a sad state when our doctors and nurses are not consulted and when their approval is not required regarding patient care. This policy I'm holding in my hand and that I'll table is being referred to as the "auto pull policy" or "dump and dash" by the doctors and the nurses. This policy mandates that patients be moved from the emergency room and placed "somewhere in the hospital." Where exactly? The policy calls these locations "non-traditional bed areas." There's no limit on the number of patients who can be placed in hallways.

This brings me to another point on behalf of the nurses. There's no policy in place to protect nurses and patients. There's no mandated nurse-to-patient ratio to ensure safe care. When I first started nursing many years ago, I would either have five patients to care for or 11 or 12, along with another nurse, usually an LPN.

Now in our hospitals, nurses are forced to take care of whatever patient load they are mandated, so they could start their shift taking care of 11 or 12 patients and then three or four more patients are moved in throughout the day, put in these non-traditional bed areas, and they are forced to take care of them.

Our nurses are demoralized. They're feeling defeated. They do not feel it's safe. I know that their union is involved here. Speaker, the reason I bring this up . . .

THE SPEAKER « » : Order. I apologize. Order. I ask that the room stay quiet.

The honourable member for Cumberland North.

ELIZABETH SMITH-MCCROSSIN « » : I did ask the minister in Estimates if she felt that this policy would withstand accreditation principles. She said, Not likely. I don't understand how our government can knowingly support policy and procedure put in place in the Nova Scotia Health Authority that the minister herself has said she does not believe would pass accreditation standards.

For those who aren't involved in health care, a non-traditional bed area could be a closet, a quiet room, a hallway - basically, anywhere in the hospital where a stretcher can fit. Often these non-traditional bed areas do not have electrical outlets, suction equipment, code bells, and sometimes not even regular call bells.

Recently in one of our hospitals, where there were patients placed in non-traditional bed areas, there were not one but two codes - meaning patients needed to be resuscitated. In normal circumstances when patients are placed in safe patient areas, a button is pressed to call a code. There's a team assigned in the hospital that comes urgently.

Because there was no button, there was a delay in this person being resuscitated in this non-traditional bed area. After that - keep in mind that two people coded at the same time - there was only one crash cart. One patient didn't have a crash cart to attend to them. The nurses have been told that they'll get another crash cart, but there's a delay because they don't have anywhere to put it on the unit, because where a second crash cart could go, they have patients in those areas.

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This is an example of how care is being compromised right now with this policy. I think one of the reasons that the nurses and doctors are so discouraged with this is that, in November when it was happening, they were told that it wouldn't continue. Now, it's not only continuing but it's an actual policy that they are being told that they have to follow.

Every day, Speaker, our nurses are filling out surge overcapacity reports, meaning the hospital is over capacity and they have too many patients to care for with what they feel is safe practice.

Another policy that's recently - I guess it's been in place for about a year, but it's only really being enforced now - is a policy that a nurse no longer has to do verbal handover when they take over care of a patient. I'm being told that this policy was put in place to get patients moving faster. If a patient is being moved from the emergency department to a non-traditional bed area, it can be done without one nurse actually speaking to another.

In health care, we have a long history of nurses giving verbal reports to each other, ensuring that nothing is missed about patient care. Now, the policy is that there's a little checkbox list, and as long as that little piece of paper has the checkboxes ticked off, that's all that has to be communicated before a patient is moved to a new patient area. Many people believe the nurses and the doctors do not believe that that is conducive to safe patient care.

My last question about this policy is: Why? What is behind this policy? Many believe it's because it refers to the emergency department off-load times. Many people believe that this policy is being put in place to try to make off-load times better, but it's causing another, more serious problem. Patients are being possibly moved out of the emergency department before they are ready and before a doctor is ready to take them and admit them as a patient.

As I close, I speak on behalf of our doctors and nurses. I urge the minister to address this policy and to address the current workplace culture and governance structure that is here in Nova Scotia, which is not leading to improved care but rather is possibly leading to worse and poor outcomes here in our health care system. We must be able to talk about this freely and openly, all with an effort to make improvements. Our patients deserve it. Our frontline health care workers deserve it too.

THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is carried.

We will have a short recess while the committee sets up.

[3:49 p.m. The House resolved into the CWH on Supply with Deputy Speaker John White in the Chair.]

[8:05 p.m. CWH on Supply rose and the House reconvened. The Speaker resumed the Chair.]

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THE SPEAKER « » : Order. The Chair of Committee of the Whole House on Supply reports:

THE CLERK » : That the Committee of the Whole House on Supply has met, has made progress, and begs leave to sit again.

THE SPEAKER « » : Is it agreed? It is agreed.

The honourable Deputy Government House Leader.

MELISSA SHEEHY-RICHARD » : Speaker, would you please call the order of business Government Motions.

[GOVERNMENT MOTIONS]

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable Deputy Government House Leader.

MELISSA SHEEHY-RICHARD « » : Speaker, would you please call Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne.

ADDRESS IN REPLY

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Halifax Chebucto.

KRISTA GALLAGHER « » : I wonder if we've ever considered why the first bite of the Valley strawberry tastes so good. I'm curious how Mother Nature knows when strawberries are at their peak. How does she know? It's the most amazing thing and something that I have a special interest in. She keeps secrets and she tells them to us only in whispers of the wind and if you're listening.

Many folks have a great ability to listen to Mother Nature's whispers. They have been warning us that her whispers are getting faint as we ignore climate change.

Imagine, if you will, the tender dance of seasons, each one bringing forth its own unique treasures. In this age of convenience and abundance, it is all too easy to lose sight of the delicate balance that governs our world. Yet by embracing the wisdom of eating in season, we not only honour the rhythms of nature, we also become stewards of our planet, nurturing its health and vitality for generations to come.

I come from an agricultural background. Both sets of my grandparents were farmers. My maternal grandparents were beef farmers in Grand Pré. My paternal grandfather was a barn engineer with the Department of Agriculture and a pig farmer in the 1980s. My father and his two brothers graduated from the Nova Scotia Agricultural College and now own a trucking company in Kentville. They work with farmers to bring in seed, machinery, fertilizer, and packaging, so I have a very special interest in that.

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After I was elected, I spoke with many farmers who were happy that someone with rural roots, small business experience, and from the real world was representing our farmers, growers, and producers. It gives me great pride because I believe in their work, and I have a special interest in talking about it whenever I have the chance.

I'm really curious about the tides. I have a special interest and curiosity in their strength and power. I'm curious about the stories they tell. I think of the fishers who venture out for the sake of their families, and moments when the tides are angry, defensive, and chaotic. I am curious about the creatures who live beyond the tides. They bring such historic and economic importance to us as Nova Scotians. As they crawl along on the bottom of the ocean, way down deep, do they know how important they are? I have a very special interest in them.

I'm curious about the surfers, one of whom I live with and was in the water today. They make our tides their ocean playground and they bubble over with excitement and have such a great respect for the power of an excellent set. The waves add great tourism value to our province and it's our surfers who are great dignitaries of our beaches.

I have a very special interest in languages - the beauty of languages and the complexity that they add to our culture - Mi'kmaq, Gaelic, French. These languages add to our mosaic society. They bring rhythms and styles to the rooms in which they are spoken. Languages are more than mere words. They are an essence of our identities and the vessels of our histories.

I spent three years in Abu Dhabi. I learned about the respect that they give their language and the proper pedestal they place it upon. The call to prayer, sung out throughout the city five times a day, feels so warm, safe, and enchanting. Although I did not understand the words of the songs sung, the rhythm is still in my heart.

My time at the Embassy of Canada in Beijing was a very special blend of language. I thought that although I was there on Canadian soil, representing the federal government, I was in another land of great language. Mandarin, with its poetic cadence and its intricate characters, invites us to explore the depths of wisdom and the gateway for empathy and connection.

I have a very special interest in small businesses. Small businesses are the backbone of our communities. Our entrepreneurs embrace ebbs and flow of both triumphs and challenges. They feel the pulse of progress in every heartbeat. They find the warmth in camaraderie and fellow dreamers. Our small businesses are where friendships are forged, where our children find their first jobs, and where the spirit of Nova Scotia thrives.

I recognize the sacrifices that our small business owners make, the risks that they take, and the dreams that they chase. I have a very special interest in fostering a culture of support and celebration for our entrepreneurs.

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I have a very special interest in the people of Halifax Chebucto. They are strong, perceptive people who have powerful morals and values. Our community is a mosaic of cultures, traditions, and aspirations, each piece contributing to the rich tapestry that makes Halifax Chebucto unique. We have many schools in Halifax Chebucto. Each classroom is a canvas, each lesson a brushstroke, each child painting a world where dreams know no bounds and the possibilities are endless, a world where everyone has a shot, and no one is left behind.

I find these schools of Halifax Chebucto are our greatest treasure. The children who grace their lives with laughter and hope and their wide-eyed curiosity and boundless energy are the architects of our future. We must remember that the future of our society lies in the hands of these young souls.

Are we setting them up for great success and with opportunities to thrive and grow? I have a very special interest in these kiddos.

Of course, I would be doing a disservice to Halifax if I didn't mention the late great Alexa McDonough. She was the member for Halifax Chebucto from 1981 to 1988. I do understand that the boundaries have changed a few times since then, but I'm honoured to say that in some ways, I'm filling her shoes as the member for Halifax Chebucto. She was a great advocate for women's rights. Alexa stood in this very room as the lone MLA to support women's right to choose. She also stood in support of 2SLGBTQIA+ and their fight for equality. She led as a strong role model with kindness and wit. I'm very proud to say that I see some of these very same qualities in my own leader, the member for Dartmouth South.

I will honour the legacy of those who came before me in Halifax Chebucto, and I will pave the way for those who follow - very special interest in that.

I have an extra special interest in my family and my new extended family of my colleagues and the EDA of Halifax Chebucto. I'm thankful for my EDA's time, their commitment, their curiosity, and their unwavering support and encouragement. We are rooted in a shared commitment to our community. Aevan, who works hard and sits behind the desk at Quinpool Road, provides me with great support and organization because I really need it. She is kind and bright, and I am thankful. Charlotte, who just recently joined our team - I look forward to growing our relationship and working closer.

To my dear team outside of politics, they have been so patient with my adventure into another world. They have been so proud and encouraging. The team remains in very capable hands while I am so overjoyed to take a backseat.

My husband, Sean, and our young son, Macsun, have given me great strength. Sean recognizes something in me that I am blind to. It was he who gave me the courage to put my name on the ballot in the first place. I don't think he regrets it yet. I love coming home to them every night. They came to visit me here this evening, and I appreciate the hugs and kisses that I get at the door and how excited they are to see me. I work very hard for them, and I have a very special interest in them.

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Finally, I am reminded that so very few folks get to sit or stand and talk about their curiosities and interests in this room. I am honoured to have this opportunity, and I hope this space creates an environment that fosters curiosity, a space where questions are welcome, and a space where curiosity is celebrated. Let us be the champions for curiosity, encouraging ourselves and others to remain forever inquisitive for the greater good of Nova Scotians. It is through that curiosity that we grow, we learn, and we evolve. Let us do good work, have special interests, and work hard for Nova Scotians. (Standing ovation)

THE SPEAKER « » : The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.

LINA HAMID « » : That is going to be very hard to follow. Mine has a little bit of a different tempo.

Speaker, I beg leave to make an introduction.

[8:15 p.m.]

THE SPEAKER « » : Absolutely.

LINA HAMID « » : Everybody, the birthday boy is here: Moamen. (Applause)

THE SPEAKER « » : Happy birthday.

The honourable member for Fairview-Clayton Park.

LINA HAMID « » : I am Lina Abdalla Mirghani Hamid, or Lina Hamid. I am honoured to be here in the People's House to represent Fairview-Clayton Park. I was born in Doha, Qatar, to Dr. Abdalla Mirghani Hamid and Nuha Hassan Osma. I am the eldest of three beautiful humans that I get to call my siblings: Eiman, Sarra, and Mariam. I'm not going to get into talking about them, because when I do, you have to physically stop me. I have to be physically stopped. All I will say for now is that I love you, and I'm extremely proud of you, and I will always and forever be grateful to you.

My father is a retired ear, nose, and throat surgeon from a little village in Sudan called Al Dabbah in the Northern State. The last time I went there, over 20 years ago, there weren't any roads that led to there. It was a desert that had to be driven through. You had to find a driver who knew the sand dunes and how to get to the village. Needless to say, we got lost and almost died in a sandstorm. That's all to say that my dad came from a very small town and was, from my understanding, the first in his village to leave to study abroad. He actually studied medicine in Ireland.

When he was in Sudan, the village that he grew up in - there weren't schools in the village. He had to travel. He had to go to a boarding school. Because they lived on the Nile, the village he would travel to was also on the Nile, so he would take a river bus. It took 72 hours, I think, to get there. That's why it had to be a boarding school. There was one working car. My mother is a banker and a dedicated stay-at-home mom. Her father is from Al-Masoudia, the Gezira State in Sudan, and her mother is from Cairo, Egypt. I haven't had the chance to go to my mother's hometown, though I hope someday things are stable enough for me to be able to do that. I have been to Egypt many times, and I'm married to an Egyptian.

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While all of that might sound confusing - Where is she actually from? - I know I've talked about that quite a little bit, but this confusion is actually what makes me a very proud third-culture kid. What is a third-culture kid? It many not be obvious, but Sudan, Egypt, and Qatar are actually quite different from each other. Not only is the Arabic dialect quite different, but so is the culture and the traditions.

My mother, sisters, and I adopted my grandmother's Egyptian dialect and so you can imagine how confused people were when we tried to tell them we were Sudanese. I'd like to add, too, for those who may not be aware, that Arabic dialects are basically half a step away from being different languages, and so the dialect spoken in Qatar is extremely different from the ones spoken in Sudan. Sometimes people don't even understand each other even though they're speaking the same language.

To top it off, Qatar is a melting pot of nationalities. Not only did I have to adapt to the varying sides of my families - you know, the Sudanese side on my dad's side, and the half-Sudanese, half-Egyptian side on my mom's side - I had to adapt to the culture in Qatar and I also had to learn to adapt to all the nationalities that surrounded us.

To add to the complexity of all of that, this all happened during a huge wave of what we called "westernization" going through the Middle East. So the reason I speak English without an accent is because it was introduced to us at a very young age. So ultimately, what did that mean? A quote from a Nigerian poet - and I apologize. I should have asked how to read this name, so I apologize if I am not pronouncing it correctly. Ijeoma Umebinyuo perfectly describes it as: "So, here you are, too foreign for home, too foreign for here. Never enough for both."

My identity obviously came with much confusion growing up. However, I realize now the advantages that that has actually given me. My parents did not give me a hometown, but they gave me the world. They didn't give me roots but they gave me seeds and showed me how to plant them wherever I wanted, so with that experience, I chose Nova Scotia as my home. That's where I've laid those seeds, and those seeds have now established roots as a proud Nova Scotian and a proud Canadian.

Being born into the life of an expat and being raised as a third-culture kid has given me a really unique perspective on life and the world, and one that I am thrilled to be introducing to the Nova Scotia House of Assembly - a perspective of the beautiful and resilient community of Fairview-Clayton Park recognized as one that they wanted in their corner. I am beyond honoured to be here to answer that call.

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My childhood and upbringing opened my eyes quite early in life to the injustices of the world that we live in. Sure, dreaming big and aiming high and working hard pays off, but in reality - and this is more real to me than some of the other members in this Chamber - we are all subject to the systems in which we exist. Systems that are inherently elitist, colonial, discriminatory, and deter civic engagement, particularly from people who look like me. Colonial systems that unfortunately do not consider something like a legislative calendar as an accessibility issue. Colonial systems that don't understand that accessibility comes with a lot of complexities.

For me to arrive to this great honour, I did not simply dream about it. I did not have politicians in my life growing up. My path was not straightforward. It was not smooth. I've had to make more stops, I've had to take more turns and detours, I've had to face more ever-shifting dead ends. Don't get me wrong, I will always appreciate and honour the path that got me here. Indeed, what it actually means is that I am even more prepared for the stage.

I am proud to be the first Muslim woman and immigrant woman of African descent to be sworn into the Nova Scotia House of Assembly. I am also tremendously proud, beyond what I can describe in mere words, to be the first Sudanese Canadian to be elected to any provincial or federal office in Canada. I'm proud to be an immigrant, and I will not stand for any demonizing or scapegoating of immigrants.

I also do ask for more than simple congratulatory words when I speak of my journey. When I speak about my journey, it's not simply to speak about my journey - it's to speak about the experience and the lessons that came with that journey, what it's like to not have had democratic rights growing up, and what it's like to be present in this House right now.

I would like to also add that I understand that I bring a different perspective, and because of that, I am genuinely open to any of my colleagues in this Chamber. If there is a situation that maybe needs some extra cultural sensitivity, I would love to support that. Please: The offer is on the table, and I hope it is accepted. My identity now and my place in this Chamber have given me a unique responsibility, and that is to do such a thing: to be able to help others navigate situations with folks who look like me.

I want to take this opportunity to thank all the people that lifted me to this position. I would like to start by thanking Alanna Harper, the amazing constituency assistant for Fairview-Clayton Park. The community and I are so thankful to have Alanna. The hard work and passion that she has brought, day in and day out for the few weeks that we've worked together, is unparalleled. It's truly a blessing to be able to know that the constituents and the community of Fairview-Clayton Park are in excellent and competent hands while I am here. Thank you, Alanna, for holding it down.

Krystal Smith, my campaign manager: The knowledge and finesse that Krystal brought to the campaign was invaluable. Krystal had my back when I was unsure, kept me motivated, and kept me fed and hydrated. We all know we need someone like that. For your mentorship and friendship, until this very day, I will forever be indebted.

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To everyone who supported me during the campaign, the volunteers, the staff, and the community members: Your tireless efforts and countless hours dedicated to the campaign were core to the success. From the bottom of my heart, I thank you.

To the Sudanese and East African community of Nova Scotia, this is for all of us. I thank you for rallying behind me and seeing the collective vision of having me represent Fairview-Clayton Park.

To my amazing family: my dad for always feeding my inquisitive and curious nature and making sure my arguing - I mean debating - skills were always sharp and ready to go; my mom for always believing in me, almost blindly, and having my back; my sisters for being my outlet when I needed to vent - for the unconditional support and love that they've given me, and for being my God-given lifetime BFFs.

My husband, Moamen, or Momo: You are wonderful, kind, supportive, loving, empowering, supportive, selfless - and did I mention supportive? When I was approached to run, and we had the chat that every member with a partner in this Chamber has had to have, he was ecstatic. I was confused. "Do you know what I'm asking you?" I kept saying, "This is going to be a huge commitment. We're going to have to make so many sacrifices." His response every time was, "You're going to be amazing. You can do it. This community would be lucky to have you in their corner."

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Thank you for being exactly who I need and giving me exactly what I need when I need it. Thank you for your patience. Thank you for being you. A quick shout-out to Auntie Maggie, my mother-in-law, for raising an excellent man. (Laughs)

To our son, Youssef - or Batates, as I like to call him, which means "potato" in Arabic - thank you for being the little light that brightens up every single day every single time. I love you more than words can describe.

As I previously mentioned, I did not dream of being a politician. Quite the contrary: Just a couple of years ago, I was outside this very House protesting on housing. (Laughs) My advocacy for social justice and meaningful change for all Nova Scotians is what brought me to the conclusion that I needed to do more.

When I was approached to run, I have to admit I was somewhat surprised. While I did briefly think about it once upon a time, I never really pictured myself being a politician. I have, however, been a community advocate and a community servant for years. In a way, I feel that seems to be the most natural path to being the people's representative, so I'm very proud to be here.

In the month of campaigning and the months since, I have had the pleasure of getting to know the amazing people of Fairview-Clayton Park on an intimate level. While it is a new riding electorally, it is a historic and vibrant community filled with kind and hard-working folks. While so many people and families have been in Fairview-Clayton Park for generations, many more are newcomers from across the province, across the country, and across the world. Folks moving to our beautiful province who are looking for a more affordable place to live in the city historically would have chosen this vibrant community.

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I remember when I lived at the top of Washmill Lake on Main Avenue in a two-bedroom that was just $1,200. That is no longer the case. The people of Fairview-Clayton Park have told us over and over that housing and life in general are no longer affordable. Long gone are the days of people moving there for a calmer, more stable, more affordable life.

The Speech from the Throne did very correctly identify the impact that poverty can have on life expectancy. However, I refuse to believe that resource extraction and undoing decades of environmental progress is the only way that we will get good-paying jobs so that people can live longer. I refuse to believe that's how we will be lifting families out of poverty. I refuse to believe that this is the one singular way that's going to lift the one out of three Nova Scotians struggling with food insecurity. This is an imaginary ultimatum.

Nova Scotians are capable of making their own choices. They are capable of making their own choices for their province and their livelihoods, and they do so through voting. Our responsibility as representatives of the people is to collaborate with the people we represent.

What's happening right now is that decisions are being made for Nova Scotians. What is being assumed is that Nova Scotians will sit back and accept the decisions that are being made on their behalf, simply because there are more numbers on the other side.

On the flip side, however, we will listen to the folks who keep telling us over and over what matters most to them. We will listen to the folks who are expected to be the most impacted by economic uncertainty. We will listen to the Indigenous stewards of the land. We will amplify your voices, Nova Scotia, and we will bring them back to this Chamber.

Unfortunately, there's only a particular group of people who are being addressed right now. We have seen in the past 10 days from this government that there is just that one group of people they care about. The fact of the matter is that I'm not here to perform a little dance for clips to be sent back home. I'm here to do exactly what this role dictates. I'm here to represent my riding of Fairview-Clayton Park, and I'm here to do it loudly and proudly.

Nova Scotians are watching, and they do understand what is happening in this House. The Speech from the Throne said the government will lead this effort but needs Nova Scotians to join. My thoughts were: Why are we assuming Nova Scotians are sheep? How can this government claim to be fair and democratic when they are making decisions without consultation with real people and without discussions with all the members on all sides of this House? We were all elected to be here.

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Nova Scotians are very capable of doing research, digging in, and speaking up for themselves. Why is it assumed that Nova Scotians are incapable of doing some research and finding out that the EMR system that's supposed to decrease ER wait times was actually supposed to be in place two years ago, is now costing us almost half a billion dollars, is not being led by a company that specializes in medical record management, and is unsustainable because it's not going to be integratable with the national system that is being explored? Why do they think they can say they made record investments in public housing, though people can look up the history themselves?

The real economic inaction here is the refusal to even discuss how money can be put back into Nova Scotians' pockets. The only time that we have seen real and noticeable decrease in child poverty was in 2020, when households had access to CERB. That is real, solid proof that social policies work. Increasing minimum wage to a living wage, increasing income assistance rates, expanding access to the rental subsidy, building more non-market, affordable housing, removing taxes off of groceries permanently - these are the types of real actions that will result in real economic growth. Anyone who has taken Economics 101 can tell you the impact of increasing purchasing power.

The Speech from the Throne also made six separate mentions of special interests. If you believe in science, don't let this rhetoric scare you. It's just a way of dampening legitimate science-backed dissent or, at the very least, a simple discussion.

Time and time again when we've attempted to have discussions or ask questions, questions are called rude and not helpful. This is the exact opposite of what we should be seeing in a democracy. I was born and raised in a monarchy. I am from a country that has been under a military dictatorship for decades and, like I've said before, this was the first time I'd voted. What is being laid out here is not what I was expecting, but I am so extremely glad for the amazing team that I sit around. It keeps me going every day.

With that, Speaker, I just want to say that we will continue to represent our constituents the best that we can. We will continue to echo the voices of Nova Scotians into these Chambers. I move to adjourn debate on Address in Reply.

THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is to adjourn debate on Address in Reply.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

In those ten days, you've probably learned that I'm a bit of a stickler for certain things. I'm going to ask you to table that quote of the poet that I would never be able to repeat the name of. (Interruption) Okay. Perfect. Thank you.

The honourable Deputy Government House Leader.

MELISSA-SHEEHY-RICHARD: This concludes government business for today. I move that the House do now rise to meet again on Friday, February 28^th between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. Following daily routine, government business will include Committee of the Whole House on Supply.

THE SPEAKER « » : The motion is that the House do rise to meet again on Friday, February 28^th between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m.

All those in favour? Contrary minded? Thank you.

The motion is carried.

[The House rose at 8:41 p.m.]

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